Re: vacuum bagging sites

I had saved this from an old post. Glenn is a very sharp guy.

Bill

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Ashmore" Newsgroups: rec.boats.building Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 2:07 PM Subject: Re: cheap vacuum bagging

The problem is lubrication. Refrigerators circulate oil with the > refrigerant to keep the compressor lubricated. When you use it as a > vacuum pump there is no oil. You can extend the life a little by > squirting a little WD40 in the intake before each session but that is of > limited value when the compressor runs 4 or 5 hours at a time. > > I suspect that the older compressors last longer because they are built > "looser". As refrigerators got more energy efficient the compressors > have been built to closer and closer tolerances so constant lubrication > became more critical. > > I made a high vacuum system back in science fair days out of an old > pre-WWII Kenvinator compressor and used it for several projects. When I > started doing woodwork I used it to bag veneers for several years. When > it finally died I tried several newer compressors but none lasted more > than a couple of sessions. They would run for 10 or 15 minutes and then > the thermal switch would kick them off. Ruined a lot of expensive > veneer trying to figure a way to keep them running. > > There are at least 50 vacuum pumps on eBay right now that would be ideal > for vacuum bagging. All under $100 and many under $50. Not a bad price > considering that if a refrigerator compressor craps out in the middle of > a session you could ruin that much material or more. > > Here are a few that would work. >

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Here is a perfect setup complete with flow guages and tank:

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>>> William R. Watt wrote:

> From what GA wrote it would be better to look for an older unit than a > > later one as I assumed. It could be tested with a car vacuum guage. A > > vaccum guage costs about $15 at Canadian Tire. I found one at a garage > > sale last summer for $4 which included a timing light and a remote starter > > switch. > > > > As for burnout maybe the compressor doesn't have to run at full power. > > Perhaps a light dimmer switch could be used to set it at the speed needed > > to maintain the vacuum for the particular application. Or 2-3

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> could be hooked up together and run at lower power off the same dimmer switch. > > > > > > > > -- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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