Doug Winterburn responds:
Ah. OK. I'd see if I can dig up that business card and call the guy and ask if he's STILL a Republican, but the card is probably tossed, along with a lot of other stuff that picked up aromas in my home office. I just figured since he'd voted for Shrub, he was Republican, because I sure as hell don't know any Democrats who did.
Charlie Self
If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to. Dorothy Parker
Disclaimer: I ain't gonna get political, and I find this kind of "marketing" strategy offensive. However...
Given the climate of personal security in the country--e.g., lots of people fall back on perceived "safety" as the reason for buying an SUV--SawStop is very clever. This is necessarily a SWAG, but if they can get before a government committee or into court, they can force saw manufacturers to appear and defend the safety equipment presently on saws and explain why it is "good enough." When it comes out that a high percentage (90?) of woodworkers remove the clunky blade guards and spliters now installed as original equipment, SawStop can step forward with a working system that they can demonstrate as being safer and non-removable. Again, this is just a hunch. One probable strategy is to lease SawStop's technology to existing manufacturers rather than market their own saws; the recent installation on a Powermatic may have been a demo of their system's effectiveness and practicality. Or they can settle for a "go away" payment from the manufacturers. They certainly won't be able to sell their product on its safety merits alone. The auto manufacturers found out a long time ago that safety doesn't sell and they didn't install belts, air bags, etc. until they were forced. IMHO, this was a good thing for the public, and so is the SawStop.
Bob
His sales pitch or business card trumpets his politiacl affiliations and voting record?
-Doug
The auto industries did not succumb to government pressure, but to pressure from insurance companies, which were losing a fortune in jackpot jury awards. Insurers threatened to triple insurance premiums for non-safety-equipped cars, and the auto industry knuckled under.
-- Ernie
Sawstop does nothing to stop binding and kickback, so you're talking apples and oranges. Not that it wouldn't convince a politician, though....
Read what I wrote, Doug. I wanted the card to call him, not as an indicator of his politics.
Charlie Self
If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to. Dorothy Parker
When you wrote:
"I'd see if I can dig up that business card and call the guy and ask if he's STILL a Republican, but the card is probably tossed, along with a lot of other stuff that picked up aromas in my home office. I just figured since he'd voted for Shrub, he was Republican, because I sure as hell don't know any Democrats who did."
It indicated to me that somehow you knew this fellow was a Republican and that he the voted for Bush. That's why I also asked if not the card if that info wasn't part of his pitch. I was aware from what you wrote that the card would allow you to call him to inquire of any changes in his political leanings.
I wonder if DP was referring to these folks in the last article:
A lot of unknows come into play here. I agree that falling from the 29th floor or the 32nd floor is not going to make a huge difference in the outcome, but 12 teeth versus a full speed blade may be the difference of a slicing afinger or lopping off a whole hand.
I've not studies table saw accidents so I don't know the probability of the various injuries and what may be prevented. Do you?
I think the resultand safety can be measured; studies would have to be (or already have) to be done. What exactly do you mean by complexity that can decrease safety? From what I've seen, the complexity is hidden and is not obstructive to the operator. What have you seen different? Ed
Unless they're using a clamping/braking system, that 1/3 of a rotation
*will* be at full speed. Any type of pin or tooth-catching pawl will stop the blade instantly from the moment it's inserted into the appropriate hole. A brake will slow the blade with decreasing velocity.I understand the SawStop system causes an instant stop, but there is naturally some delay between trigger and stop. Between those two, there's 1/3 of a blade rotation at full speed.
No I don't. Neither do the folks at SawStop. Maybe God does, but the rest of us don't have the gift of omiscience. No one can predict the many variables that might be in play when a blade contacts skin.
Kevin
Tchswood asks:
Check out "corporate welfare" some day. I interviewed a small factory owner some years ago, and got a lesson in how big and small companies take from the government and, sometimes, even do a payback. It was the "sometimes" that bothered him, so he refused any corporate welfare for his company (managed to run it for upwards of 40 years with never a lay off, increasing in size from about 100 employees to almost 400 in that time). Check out Enron. Check out Ms. Stewart. Check out...the beat goes on.
Too many people espouse conservatism and then expect it to apply only to the other guy. Very similar to most other things in today's life.
Charlie Self
Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child. Dan Quayle
You can read in their petition that they expect a gov't funded study to find out more about table saw injuries. It is nice when you can get the government to do your research for you.
-Jack
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We must suppose you don't mind being wrong 70 or 80% of the time then, mustn't we?
I prefer not to opine on subjects I'm ignorant of and let people wonder whether I'm a fool, rather than to commit myself and remove doubt. But to each, his own, I guess. Thanks for the candor.
Abe Froman foams:
FO, as our British cousins say.
Charlie Self
I think we agree, the past is over. George W. Bush
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