Hard to say here, I looked at the group and it seems like several writers
voiced their opinions with out each testing every drill. That was my
impression. The Milwaukee, incredibly light weight, yet is in the middle of
the pack as far as weight is concerned. The Ridgid and DeWalt each drove 41
and 33 d3" dry wall screws respectively and each got a "Bottom Line" of 4
red dots, what ever that means and then a Ryobi drove 3 times more and got
the same rating. I think there were different testers with different
expectations and they did not test all of the drills.
In recent years even before B&D got them I have not been impressed with
anything that PC was turning out, especially their cordless drills. Take me
back 15-20 years and it was my brand of choice.
This just in,, PC introduces worlds first job work site cordless coffee
maker/ blender/ toaster combo.
Did B&D buy Skil a long time ago? I was under the impression that Bosch
was still linked with Skil. And I was under the impression since the 70's
that B&D and DeWalt had been linked for some time. Although I think DeWalt
was strictly the big tools but do recall when DeWalt started building
smaller and bench top tools that looked "exactly" like the B&D tools. I
currently have a corded DeWalt that looks like an old B&D drill that I
bought for my BIL 18+ years ago. Also I have a B&D router that I bought in
1974 that seemed to change to a yellow color and flash a DeWalt badge on
store shelves some 10-15 years later.
And you can
Ok, I suspected that there was an outside influence, which tennis shoe
company is it? '~)
I started losing interest in PC about 10 years ago. I could see that
their metal castings were rougher, their fit and finish wasn't as
good, and their tools weren't as well made. More and more of their
parts (if not the whole product) was made offshore. That in itself
isn't necessarily a bad thing, but if no one watches the production
line, the quality easily gets away from the manufacturer.
LMAO... I am SURE that's coming.
> Did B&D buy Skil a long time ago? I was under the impression that
I strongly believe (as opposed to a fact) that they were associated
before Bosch bought Skil. The Bosch parent company retains Skil, but
without digging around I couldn't say when I read there was a
partnership with Skil and B&D.
B&D used to make an industrial line of tools that were union made, all
from parts in the USA. When unions were at their peak, no tools that
weren't certified as made in USA were allowed on the job.
About 15 years ago I had an inspection contract for a company that was
monitoring construction of a large facility here in town. They were
so pissed off that I wasn't a union member they made me wear a
different color of hard hat than anyone else on the job! Hard core,
them boys was...
They had only a few PC tools, but mostly the B&D industrial line.
They all had black plastic cases with satin aluminum metal parts, and
a certification seal on them. The saws, some drills, and the large
routers were later changed to the DeWalt brand. Then the molds and
dies were shipped to other locations and made there, and assembled who
knows where. Every once in a while one of those old B&D industrial
tools will show up on Ebay. I don't know when they quit making the
all USA made industrial line.
You are completely correct about changing the color and badge, though.
Check this out:
I don't know why they quit updating it, but it is an interesting read
if you like the history of business. Most folks don't understand just
how huge the B&d empire is these days. But seeing the history, it is
also a bit frightening to see how much B&D owns, all the way from
Baldwin locks to DeVilbiss spray equipment.
Their tools are just another disposable product made by their
company. It shows, too.
Now that you mention it, I will be keeping an eye out for a job site
toaster oven + hammer drill combo from PC. ;^)
AFAIK there never was any and neither company's history information
gives any indication that it was ever so.
That doesn't say you didn't read it somewhere; only that probably the
source wasn't correct... :)
Well, the farther I get along the spongier the old gray matter seems
to get. I appreciate getting the benefit of the doubt.
I actually think that article I read said that (like the Hitachi deal)
they were just manufacturing for Skil. Of course, that could be
something that was stuck in the spongy part..... ;^)
Didn't realize B&D ever owned Skil, but by the 90's, with the
exception of the "77", the Skil product line was little more than
It was my understanding that SB acquired the Skil package in the 90's
strictly for the "77".
Here in my part of SoCal, Skil & Bosch service centers which were less
than 5 miles apart and merged together within 90 days of the
Within a year, the most of the Skil crap was no longer on display in
the Bosch service center except for the "77" and a couple of circular
Today, Bosch has brought their version of the "77" to the market.
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