The first cordless drill I ever bought was a 9.6 volt Skil. Worked
like a charm, but it was recalled and replaced with a 12 volt. It has
never held a charge well and is now dead. I did a little research and
found that Skil has had trouble with their chargers dying.
I e-mailed Skil about the problem and here was their response:
"Thank you for writing Skil Power Tools. All available parts and
accessories for Skil Power Tools can be ordered directly through our
parts office at 1.800.346.4103 (menu option 1). You will need to call
them directly to verify pricing and availability of the item. You may
place your order by phone and they will ship it directly to you.
Please write back if you have any other questions."
I called them and pointed out that dealers have even quit carrying the
chargers as replacements because they are so unreliable. All they
would do is tell me the price for a new one.
I'll never buy another Skil product.
Dick "disgruntled" Durbin
You sound surprised! Skil is now clearly one of the cheaper power tool
brands, marketed towards light-duty homeowner types, not hard-using
construction types. (Note - they may once have been considered better
quality; don't know the age of your original drill...) If you want
durable tools, in almost all cases, you'll probably have to pay more
for them. Fortunately, the "real" tool brands are more likely to come
with more helpful customer service, but that's far from a given -
you'll probably want to find a reputable local tool dealer if you
really want solid service. Even though their prices will be higher
than Amazon or wherever else online, there ARE still some businesses
that believe in customer SERVICE.
If you're looking for another cordless drill, may I suggest a
Panasonic? They have some nice lightweight 12V models, and
everything I've seen (and experienced) suggests they're known for good
batteries and chargers.
> You sound surprised! Skil is now clearly one of the cheaper power tool
> brands, marketed towards light-duty homeowner types, not hard-using
> construction types.
A few years ago, the only reason S-B (Bosch) bought Skil was to get
the 77 Skil Saw.
Everything else was basically trash.
Today, Bosch has their own version of the 77.
The original drill was a pretty good tool and I bought it because it
was all I needed at the time. I also own a Porter Cable drill now
that is a substantial tool.
The thing that concerns me so much is that the same company that owns
Skil also owns Bosch. I own a couple of Bosch tools and consider them
the best tools I own. I would hesitate to buy another Bosch tool if
the parent company is willing to make a defective product (my Skil
drill) and then not stand behind it.
I want a second drill and will probably buy a Dewalt, PC, Panasonic,
or other quality drill.
> The thing that concerns me so much is that the same company that owns
> Skil also owns Bosch.
SFWIW, the Bosch service here in SoCal has bent over backwards to help
me when ever I needed them.
BTW, it's the other way around, S-B (Bosch) owns Skill.
The same company that owns Mercedes Benz owns Dodge.
That should be of no concern, the Skil, Bosch union took place several
years ago with no ill effects.
I own a couple of Bosch tools and consider them
You are confusing how affiliated companies may run. While the company may
own both the two seperate businesses mostly operate independently.
While you are happy with the PC drill, PC quality and reliability has not
done so well in recent years. You might want to leave PC out of your list
of considerations. You might also consider Makita and Milwaukee.
While I defend Bosch, I have personally broken every Bosch drill that I have
used, one was handed to me by a Bosch rep so that I could drive a couple of
screws. I told him about my luck with Bosch drills and boy did he have a
funny look on his face after the drill started making a grinding noise.
> Actually German cars in general have a bad rep these days. I went
> Japanese after owning 2 German cars.
SFWIW, after 115,000 miles on my Tonka Toy, took it in for the start
of my 3rd set of tires and a front end alignment.
Left front was barely out of spec, right was still in spec.
Shop indicated they seldom see Japanese vehicles for routine maintenance.
Certainly could not say that about the VW's I've had.
How old is that Audi? My late model VW's had lots of parts with the Audi
logo under the hood. I know you hate to hear this but its kinda like a
Chevy Monte Carlo compared to a Buick Regal. A seperate class but deep down
the same car. Flame suit on.
Our 2000 Passat never missed a maintence trip to the dealer and it needed
both outer tie rod ends at 32,000 miles, a heater core at 49,000 miles, a
starter relay that left my wife stranded at 28,000 miles, a battery at
27,000 miles. Having been in the automotive profession and having been the
service sales manager for a large Olds dealership I know that does not fly.
As the old saying goes, GM vehicles run longer badly that other cars run at
all. LOL I prefer Japanese.
But then it was built by the country that built cars from Honda plans and
still screwed it up. Remember the Sterling/Honda?
> Anything high-strung is going to have issues, but if you want to talk
> lousy reliability, there's always Jaguar.
Jaguar (AKA: Found On Road Dead)
When FoMoCo bought Jag, it had 35 man hours in per my source.
No wonder it was a dog.
Actually long before Ford bought Jaguar, Jaguar was having big time engine
problems. Oddly, a Chevy V8 engine was the better choice as a direct bolt
up replacement engine for the Jag's as far back as the 70's IIRC.
... and at least one Bosch ROS too! ;)
Just kidding ... that turned out to be a switch issue on a tool that had
seen some years of hard use.
I was a Makita fan for many years when it came to cordless drills, but I've
got to say that my DeWalt 18v XRP, going on it's sixth years of hard use,
has taken lessons from the Energizer Bunny.
My Bosch tools are some of the toughest I own, but was surprised to find
that my British SIL considered Bosch on the cheap tool side where he comes
As for PC, I agree with you 100% ... the company is simply not producing the
quality of tool they did even five years ago, IME.
You know how some people cannot wear electronic wrist watches? ;~)
The switch on one of my Bosch router failed the second day I had it. It
has been doing fine in the last 9 years. There is something about the
German built electrical switches. German cars typically have electrical
problems more often than others.
I had 2 DeWalts before my Makita's other than my 1983 Makita 7 volt right
angle drill. The battery finallly quit taking a charge last year. Yes,
that battery is now about 24 years old. ;~)
I am not suprised, while Bosch is a pretty darn good brand I think Fein,
Festool, and AEG are probably better built.
I only like their sanders, the "old style" sanders.
Did you get my e-mail?
:> The thing that concerns me so much is that the same company that owns:> Skil also owns Bosch.
: The same company that owns Mercedes Benz owns Dodge.
And it's of interest that Mercedes cars are now quite unreliable, across the
(I'm not saying it's due to the Chrysler acquisition, just that
MB, once famous for terrific build quality, is apparently
down the slope some).
-- Andy Barss
Good. If you liked the products they sold a couple of years ago,
you'll hate the cheaply made downmarket junk they're peddling now. It's
a name you really should avoid.
I recently bought one of the last 666 1/2 sheet sanders to be had. Now
_that's_ a nice piece of kit.
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