Phone in the shop?

[George]

Use the refrigerator for something besides an art gallery.

the meds list updated!

[B A R R Y]

Do real EMT's actually check, or is that an urban legend? Anybody here an EMT?

Personally, I travel with a laminated card listing contact, insurance, and medical information, as well as my driver's license in my money clip. Extra copies of the card and laminated photocopies of my driver's license are also in my bicycle ID packets, my kayak, and my flight bag.

I figure if the cards are obliterated the phone won't be much good, either.

If real EMT's say the ICE thing is the real deal, I guess it can't hurt.

[George]

We're not cops, so we can't go through your property legally without your permission. That's why having the information in a public place like the fridge is such a good idea. You may not be able to answer the questions on your own, and the emergency numbers and diagnosis by medication may be all the history we can get. Also a good idea to have any medical alert in the form of a necklace, as the primary survey runs top to bottom, and that'll be noticed.

[B A R R Y]

Thanks!

I carry a clear plastic Ziploc sandwich bag when cycling that contains my license, insurance info, kin and primary Dr. contact info, some basic medical info (like "No known med allergies" and my blood type) and $10. I never knew you guys can't open that.

I teach cycling classes, and will make sure to add the necklace reminder to the course. I've had cops in the classes on many occasions, and they hadn't mentioned the property angle, so this is great stuff to know.

[Upscale]

I have to believe though that if one is receiving medical attention and the cause of the distress is not apparent, then an EMT or a doctor in an emerge will see if there's any information in a wallet. In actuality, I've seen it happen while waiting for treatment in an emergency ward.

Of course, it's up here in Canada I've seen it so I don't know how the same emergency personnel would act down in the US where lawsuits are more commonplace. As far as the bracelet goes, I tried one for a short period on my wrist and it kept getting caught when I was rolling around in my wheelchair. The neck type was irritating, so I don't wear any med alert stuff and have all the necessary information in my wallet. Maybe I'm at risk, but so be it, I've taken all the precautions I'm willing to take.

[Hoosierpopi]

Our VOIP from Charter Net came with a box that took the CABLE input and provided the POTS (tip and ting?) connector to which we simply attached our existing phone wires. We did NOT have to change phones, nor ringers, flashers, fax nor answering machine to get the service. Maybe you should call the VONAGE folks and complain. They may have a solution as he feature is BIG FOR DEAF PEOPLE which is a handicap and likely covered by some statute(s) somewhere.

[Russ]

[J T]

Wed, Aug 1, 2007, 5:36am (EDT+4) [e-mail] (Puckdropper) doth wisely counsel: ICE is frozen water. Since it's capitolized, it's being emphasized in some matter, such as ICE CREAM!

Mmmm, ice cream. Best explaination I'v had in quite awhile. Mmmm ice cream. LOL Thanks.

JOAT I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do them. - Picasso

[Morris Dovey]

| ICE is frozen water. Since it's capitolized, it's being emphasized | in some matter, such as ICE CREAM!

Better hope not - if it's capitolized, add it to the list of things the legislature has grabbed for itself.

-- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA

[George]

We have an "implied consent" statute which covers the unconscious, and all minors in absence of parent, but it's strictly for medical treatment. I've used it a few times, even waiting until a patient I knew was about to crash did so so I could treat them. Cops, on the other hand, can do things like put people in protective custody if they seem a danger to themselves or others, determine if they're too drunk to give "informed consent," and do the same with their personal property.

Patient belongings are routinely collected in the Emergency Department, but I wouldn't want to be the caregiver of record when someone claims they had fifteen hundred bucks in their wallet before I picked them up!

[Scott Lurndal]

Tip and Ring. Think phone plug, one conductor is connected to the tip, the other to the ring. Old convention Red = Ring = Right. (the red (ring) conductor would be on the right side of a connection block).

scott

[Robert Bonomi]

signal 'identified'? *WHAT* signal??

Anything that supports a POTS phone uses a standard 2-wire connection to the phone.

If the Vonage adapter will ring a _phone_ plugged into it, it *WILL* activate any other 'direct connect to the telephone wiring' device that reacts to ringing. Such a device 'looks like' a regular POTS phone to whatever is on the other end of the wiring..

Radio shack used to sell 'em, under the name "Fone Flasher", to mention one of the most widely available ones. Unfortunately, it seems to have been discontinued several years ago.

[Par]

B A R R Y :

In my case they'd have a fun time trying to guess the PIN before it locks down hard.

/Par

[B A R R Y]

Come to think of it, my phone also locks after a period of inactivity.