I'm giving serious thought to getting that benchtop sander made by
I've gotten interested in the gluing lamination technique of making
curved parts. Ala David Marks (just to name a famous name doing it).
It seems like it would do the job for making the smaller parts needed
for work like that, but obviously NOT something for panel work.
If you've got experience with this machine, what do you think of it?
Is it really suitable for such a task? Is the quality of the machine
good? How'd you handle the dust issue? Think a shop vac is enough
I seriously doubt a shop vac would come close to being adequate. To test
your vac, put the biggest attachment on it and then hold it 3 or 4 inches
above some sawdust. Does it suck the saw dust up quickly? Remember that
the largest attachment may only be 1/3 the size of the actual sander
attachment and performance will fall off even more. IIRC the typical shop
vac only has about 1/10 to 1/4 the CFM of the typical entry level dust
From what I recall the performance of the sander is affected by dust
I would look into the specific CFM requirements of the sander before making
the sander purchase and or a dust collector.
No, don't chance it. If you don't adequately remove the sawdust
generated, it will get between the sandpaper and wood and burn the wood
and your paper. (Seen it happen) Think of it as an excuse to get a dust
I'm not sure how much the benchtop drum sander costs, but this seems
like something you'll really wish that you had bought the fullsized
model down the road. I'd save up for the big one. If you do hardwood,
you will use it on every project, and it's a huge time saver.
I currently take the large items (panels) to my hardwood dealer and
feed them through their sander. I really like that.
But there's a limit - I don't think I'd ever be able to justify to
myself the money it'd take to get one that's large enough to sand a
tabletop or glueup for a panel. There's space constraints and the
aforementioned dust collection issues.
OTOH, taking a lot of small pieces to the dealer and fiddling with
that is both time consuming and a problem since I have to get the work
their on their schedule.
Therefore my desire for that little sander.
I've never tried my shop vac with my 22-44. I use my DC. It pulls all
the dust from the sanding into the DC (and quickly reduces the
efficiency because the fine dust coats the upper bag).
What do you mean it isn't for panel work?
Mine works great after some fiddling around to get the head level. The
first few times I installed sandpaper I began to regret my decision, but
a couple days later I got the hang of it so that I can change it in
about a minute and a half.
Is David Marks actually famous? :) I know many woodworkers know his
name and have seen his shows, but does that qualify as "famous"?
My intended use is the small strips for laminating to make curved
drawer fronts or even something like that floor lamp David Marks made.
That sort of thing.
More famous than I am. I guess fame is relative. Sam Maloof has
pieces in the Smithsonian, and I think he's famous, but ask the
ordinary joe who David Marks or Sam Maloof is and I'll bet you get a
<<Sam Maloof has pieces in the Smithsonian, and I think he's famous, but ask
ordinary joe who David Marks or Sam Maloof is and I'll bet you get a
I believe you are correct. My brother and sister-in-law are in the
furniture business (they represent several North Carolina manufacturers) and
until last year they had never heard of Maloof.
To e-mail, replace "bucketofspam" with "dleegordon"
Well how small is small. I use a shop made fence with my spindle
sander for narrow stuff. It works pretty well, but as the fence is
just clamped on it's a little fussy making multiple passes. Loosen
front clamp, nudge fence closer, tighten clamp.. You have to be
careful not to take too hard of a pass or it will tend to dig in in
spots. Can do about 7-8" wide board if I go through on both edges,
though typically I only do about 2-3".
The next step up:
6" capacity, pretty limited as far as thickness of the board though.
I like that it takes regular paper and doesn't require any fancing
wrapping though, And once it's setup it shouldn't require any
fussing. High on my want list.
And then there's Grizzly's 12" drum.
George Max wrote:
> I'm giving serious thought to getting that benchtop sander made by
I would not waste my time with a toy, especially when low cost
commercial service is available.
You need a serious machine if you expect to hold tolerances as well as
handle sanding dust disposal.
Just finished having a 30"x30"x1/2" sanded to 3/8" as well as 9 drawer
fronts that were about 6"x10" taken from 3/4" to 5/8".
Total cost: $30 and a pleasant hour of swapping lies with a delightful
Thanks for the pointer about tolerance on the thickness. I'll be sure
to check that out.
Dust is an issue to be sure. I'll do what I have to in that regard if
I get that or any other machine.
Now, my big stuff, I take to the hardwood store and put it through
their machine. It's just about 36". But it'd cost me more than
double that $30 for an hour of time on their machine. And there's the
problem of going there to use it on their schedule. Also, some
employees are very reluctant to let anyone go "back there." Not to
mention the grit they're using and the fussiness of sanding little
pieces in preparation for making the "sandwhich" to glue up.
> Thanks for the pointer about tolerance on the thickness. I'll be sure
> to check that out.
> Dust is an issue to be sure. I'll do what I have to in that regard if
> I get that or any other machine.
> Now, my big stuff, I take to the hardwood store and put it through
> their machine. It's just about 36". But it'd cost me more than
> double that $30 for an hour of time on their machine. And there's the
> problem of going there to use it on their schedule. Also, some
> employees are very reluctant to let anyone go "back there." Not to
> mention the grit they're using and the fussiness of sanding little
> pieces in preparation for making the "sandwhich" to glue up.
I don't know where you are located but here in SoCal there are four (4)
commerical shops that I have heard about.
The one I use charges $26.50 to turn the machine on.
His equipment is definitely NOT DIY stuff.
It is very serious equipment.
Have you checked with any of the top shops in your area to see who they
use for durm sanding?
I have the Performax 16-32. 90% time I sand pieces that would fit in the
The only concern I would have would be sanding longer pieces. The table and
hold rollers may make building/using in-feed and out-feed tables. As for
quality, it looks as well built as my 16-32. It's a pain to get it setup
perfect, +- .010 inside - outside.
David Marks and many others, including myself, enjoy bent lamination. Its
not as simple as Mr. Marks TV show depicts but it is very rewarding when it
If you can afford this machine, wait - buy a real dust collection system
first. Your lungs and ears will thank you.
I use a portable 1HP dust collector with it and it works well.
I would not class this as a toy. It is rather heavy and I think
as solidly built as the larger models. So far I have only used
it with parts (mainly oak) that fit within the 10 inch width so I cannot
say how well it will do with two passes on wider stock. It does look
relatively easy to adjust the drum to be parallel or up slightly as
While I do not have them, there are outfeed tables available for this
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