Yeah, I know it's not woodworking topic, but my woodworking
magazines have grown to a volume that has to be dealt
with. I am planning to move them into the workshop which
is attached to the garage and is insulated, not heated
and on a slab. Question I wonder about is: how long will they
last there without getting attached by mold, etc? I will be
putting them in a storage cabinet. I was thinking of putting
in those silicia gel packets to keep the humidity down.
Any other thoughts about this from someone who
has done it? I live in No. Calif (above the Golden Gate),
so the temps throughout the year will be in the:
25 - 100 range. We are also kinda "dry" humidity wise, but
paper I know will soak up almost any moisture.
I searched in Google for archiving, etc. and found that
I could use glassine envelopes to protect them, but that seems
to be a bit overkill. I want them to last a while but not
Mon, Jul 12, 2004, 11:18am (EDT-3) firstname.lastname@example.org (MJ Wallace)
Yeah, I know it's not woodworking topic, but my woodworking magazines
have grown to a volume that has to be dealt with. <snip>
Keep them off the floor, make sure they don't get wet if you roof
leaks, hope mice don't get to them.
If you've got that many, I'd go thru them, and get rid of all you
absolutely can't stand to part with. I did that awhile back with my
Fine Woodworking. Don't regret it for a minute, and plan on doing the
same soon with the rest of my old woodworking magazines. However, my
WoodenBoat magazines will be staying.
Making a success of the job at hand is the best step toward the kind you
- Bernard M. Baruch
More likely, your boss gets a raise and/or promotion, from getting
credit for your work.
FWIW, most of my dad's boating magazines from the '40s and '50s, stored in a
similar shop in Florida, were still readable in the early '90s--insect
damage was more of a problem than mold or the like. IMO keeping the bugs
out of them would be the main issue.
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
Think about some sort of heat source in the cabinet (that won't set fire to
the magazines). I put a "Goldenrod" gun safe heater in the cabinet where I
store planes & chisels. South Alabama has a rust problem too.
Try going to a marine supply store. Humidity is a constant threat to boats
and they will usually have several ways of controlling (or attempting to
By the way, the north side like San Quentin?? :-) I am out in the
Antioch/Brentwood area so our temps are more like 30-115.
Good ideas. I'm in Sebastopol, out towards Bodega and Bodega
Bay. We get fog most of the summer it seems, (this is
our first year in our new home). So I'm a little concerned
about moisture. I also like the space bag idea as well.
When we lived in the Philippines there was a light bulb in the closet
that was on all of the time to protect our clothes from the mold etc.
that was a problem over there. Seens to me that it was a 25watt bulb
for a 6X6 closet.
:)Think about some sort of heat source in the cabinet (that won't set fire to
:)the magazines). I put a "Goldenrod" gun safe heater in the cabinet where I
:)store planes & chisels. South Alabama has a rust problem too.
:)> Yeah, I know it's not woodworking topic, but my woodworking:)> magazines have grown to a volume that has to be dealt:)> with. I am planning to move them into the workshop which:)> is attached to the garage and is insulated, not heated:)> and on a slab. Question I wonder about is: how long will they:)> last there without getting attached by mold, etc? I will be:)> putting them in a storage cabinet. I was thinking of putting:)> in those silicia gel packets to keep the humidity down.
:)> Any other thoughts about this from someone who:)> has done it? I live in No. Calif (above the Golden Gate),:)> so the temps throughout the year will be in the::)> 25 - 100 range. We are also kinda "dry" humidity wise, but:)> paper I know will soak up almost any moisture.
:)> I searched in Google for archiving, etc. and found that:)> I could use glassine envelopes to protect them, but that seems:)> to be a bit overkill. I want them to last a while but not:)> forever.
:)> MJ Wallace
Why not instead spend that money on a sheet-fed scanner? Neatly
guillotine (or just cut with scissors) the spines off the
magazines/books, scan them on the sheet-fed scanner into OCR software
and put onto CD-R. Not only are they then searchable for keywords,
but you can share them online with other folks as well.
Much bigger task than you might think. Trust me on this--I used to get paid
to do that sort of thing. And OCR still doesn't work that well.
As for as "share them online with other folks as well", that is called
"copyright violation" and if you do it without permission of the copyright
holder it is a crime in most countries.
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
email@example.com (MJ Wallace) wrote in message
1 - If the humidity is high enough to mold paper, I'd worry more about
your *tools*. Ever considered getting a dehumidifier?
2 - If you keep them packed or stacked, then you can almost think of
it as a stack of lumber with no stickers in between (ie, not much
moisture exchange, except for the ends). So, you might want to stack
them and put som phone books on top or something.
3 - Those silica gel things are pretty cheap on ebay. I got a big
zip-loc bag of the stuff for about $10. The cool part is that it is
the *indicating* kind, where it turns pink when it's "full". Then, you
toss it in the oven for a while and it turns purple again.
Might check with a pet store that sells reptiles. There
are roll up electric strip heaters that might work.
They're made to stick on the bottom of a vivarium.
Keeps my outdoor caged iguana comfy during the winter
without turning him into "tastes just like chicken"
horse duvers (apologies to French speaking members
and those English speaking members who can spell.
Is there a French word in which NONE of the letters
are pronounced? Was there some kind of treaty
where the French got almost all the vowels and just
some of the consenants and the Slavic countries got
one or two vowels and almost all of the consenants?)
Unless you have a persistant moisture accumulation problem in
the garage, _mold_ is not likely to be much of an issue. Insects
of various forms are a more likely concern.
Note: silica gel is 'useful' *only* in TIGHTLY-CLOSED containers.
I would consider getting some of the plastic storage tubs that have
tight-fitting lids. Ones that are _deep_ enough to hold magazines
'standing up'. depending on the size of the tub, you should get two,
or three 'columns' of magazines in it. from a weight perspective,
one that neatly holds two rows is preferable.
Load each row only about 90% full -- this leaves enough room to 'thumb
through' the issues to see what's what, _without_ having them sagging
Add a couple of 'freshly baked' silica gel packets to each tub, and
you should be good.
Thanks all to responding to this rather unusual request
from this group. I think the best is to put them into
plastic see-thru tubs and drop the silicia packets into
there. At least they will be protected from mice/bugs
and moisture. All I could ask.
I would cull them (as suggested), but you know,
everyone now and thenI rummage through them
and find something I like to build or discuss a topic
that I need to know more about.
Scanning them would be the best, but the amount of
time and effort would be tremendous. Perhaps, I could
see that for a couple of them, but not all.
Well, thanks to you all again.
From about 60 miles north of LA, CA my collection of FWW and other
rages are in a cabinet in the garage and the only thing I've done for
protection is silverfish bait. No damage noted. For convenience
they're stored in plastic magazine cases to avoid flopping around,
On 14 Jul 2004 11:09:45 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org (MJ Wallace)
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