OT: Router bit deals

nailshooter41 · 2010-08-17T05:55:17+00:00

Whilst perusing some of my normal haunts, I found this: case that doesn't work, it is a vendor that sells on Amazon thathas a lot of different styles (actually useful profiles!) of Milwaukeerouter bits for just $4.99 a piece.So there is no whining about where they are made, I am sure they areTaiwanese. But for 5 beans, use the hell out of them, touch them up acouple of times and toss them.The nice thing about Milwaukee is that they still back their products.Excellent prices on some of the profiles.Robert

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Lew Hodgett 16 years ago

Certainly a sign of bad and suspicious character.

Around here it isn't natural to not be interested in two or three teams as a minimum. Passing knowledge of several state/local/ professional teams is certainly a must, as from time to time you will be called on to join in a good cussing of them when they do something dumb. You can give a convincing performance if you don't know some names!

------------------------------------------ The folks in NE Ohio can commensurate with your group.

As a kid the Cleveland Browns were my team.

Otto Graham was quarterback and for ten (10) years from '46 thru '56, was a time when the Browns WON and then "Otts" retired.

Starting in '57, the Browns didn't win any more except in '64.

1960 and Art Modell comes to town and buys the Browns with other peoples money. 1964 and Paul Brown (The team was named after him) is gone as coach and the Browns win the championship.

Fast forward to the '90s when carpetbagger Model moves to Baltimore.

During those 40+ years, the only winner was Model, not the Browns.

Home games were played in Municipal Stadium, with 80,000+ seating capacity.

Season ticket holders had every seat between the 30 yard lines.

Sell out crowds were standard.

Being a winning team was not.

Loge boxes were added, but limited.

Cleveland knocks down Municipal Stadium and builds a new stadium on the old site with lots of loge boxes.

Cleveland gets a replacement team.

It's not a winner either.

During football season, the TV sports programs spend all week crying in their beer.

If you are a sports fan in NE Ohio, ya gotta be tough.

Lew

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krw 16 years ago

I was never much into organized sports. OTOH, a pickup game of baseball was always fun. I now work for a company that makes sports electronics (the headsets coaches use on the sidelines is our main product - ~100% market share) and I live next to a big SEC college. There is a *lot* of money in this; 87,000 seat stadium X $50/ticket, minus $0 for players' salaries, you do the arithmetic. Always make sure your target customer has money. ;-)

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dpb 16 years ago

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Spent almost 30 years in Oak Ridge, TN,

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krw 16 years ago

Same thing here.

Penn State's Beaver Stadium is right up there, only 200 seats behind Michigan and a 3000 ahead of Neyland. ;-)

The top football schools certainly are self-funding (capital construction expenses likely not, though). As you point out, they (usually football and basketball) pay the freight for all the rest of the sports programs.

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dpb 16 years ago

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Unless revenues:expenses have changed markedly for the better, I don't think so from simply game revenues they cover expenses even for the majors. Didn't used to be so, certainly.

Without alumni support and particularly TV revenue and licensing revenues, last I looked other than two or three at the outside (UT-Austin is, but they have outside revenue from oil royalties as does the whole UT system that puts them in a completely different ball game compared to any other institution I'm aware of) actually are ahead simply on ticket revenues.

Now, if they only had to support a de minimus football program (and could keep the same fan support and therefore ticket prices and attendance which is extremely unlikely for the long term) and weren't also supporting Title IX and all, then, _maybe_...

I doubt think more than the top 10-20 or so basketball programs break even and at one time when I did a fair amount of looking into it although it's been quite a while ago now, there were only about four -- UK, Duke, UNC and KU. But, the do all still play on hardwood floor to keep on topic... :)

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krw 16 years ago

They did thirty years ago and they do at the majors now (they've added TV revenue inbetween). When I was at UIUC they claimed the sports programs were self-sustaining, and here at Auburn they are, too, at least according to the interviews on the local talk shows. ...and forget about teams like Notre Dame.

TV revenue is part of the sports program, no?

Nope, $35M + TV and radio revenue is a *lot* of money.

Nope. A *lot* of them make money. Many schools sell out big domes. UIUC always sold out (17K), I'm sure Syracuse does pretty well too. There is TV and tournament revenue there, too. Down here in the South, probably not so much.

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