OT - locksets.

[Lobby Dosser]

Didn't say that.

[Lobby Dosser]

A little old lady ...

[J. Clarke]

What difference does it make? .22s have good penetration, quite adequate to go through important bits of your brain or your heart. They have little stopping power but with good shot placement they'll kill you deader'n Hell. It's just gonna take a while for you to die.

By the way, when it's pointed at you by someone you think intends to use it a "little .22" looks like the Holland Tunnel.

[Robert Bonomi]

Schlage is onwe of the better basic residential-grade lock mechansims. There are several others at roughly comparable prices that are equally good. Go to a professional locksmith shop and see what they sell for *BASIC* locks. :)

Note: about all that 'higher security' (Note: *NOT* true "HIGH security") locks like MEDCO buy you is that someone who gets their hands (temporarily) on you keys will have a very difficult time copying it.

For basic business use the standard of reference for base-level security is the Yale brand.

To _rationally_ go beyond anything of that level, one needs to spend time considering, and 'hardening against attack' the -oter- possible means of ingress. e.g. things like security bars on the windows, and metal entry doors set in metal frames.

The single *biggest* thing you can do for home security is to _not_ use a clock mechanism where the lock is integral to the door-knob. Regardless of the quality oft he lock mechanism, those are defeatable with a simple pipe wrench.

Comment: the _first_ step in any kind of security/defense plan is to quantify the type of _threat_ you are attempting to protect against. Doing that gives you a *LOT* of information with regard to establishing what you need to do for protection.

Some basic threat classes: 1) the -property- is a 'target of opportunity' -- the bad guy is 'just passing by' and decides to see if he can break in. It is generally "sufficient" to be 'more difficult than nearby properties' to break into. 2) -you- are a 'target of opportunity' -- someone gets ahold of (or copies) your keys and decides to 'see what can be seen'. This is where copy-resistant keys like MEDCO are very effective. 3) You, or your property, are selected 'with malice aforethought' as the target of a WELL-PLANNED, carefully directed (and executed), attack. Nothing short of a full-time professional security force will so much as slow these kinds of attackers down.

[Doug Miller]

In article , [e-mail] (Robert Bonomi) wrote: [...]

I respectfully disagree. IMHO, the single biggest thing you can do for home security is to own a dog.

[Lobby Dosser]

So you think she buys hollow points?

[Larry Jaques]

On Sun, 2 May 2010 14:38:41 -0700, the infamous "Lobby Dosser" scrawled the following:

A video's worth thousands of words:

with a MG. ?v=lmcQB9yQzjs&feature=related AR-15 semi. with a Glock. and .357s, .44 mags, etc.

Again, why does a LR cartridge seem farfetched?

-- Courage is the power to let go of the familiar. -- Raymond Lindquist

[Lew Hodgett]

-------------------------------------------- Try a gander.

Lew

[Max]

I have a dog. She's a watch dog. She would only "watch" if someone broke in. If I'm at home, the single biggest thing to deter a burglar is me and my Smith & Wesson .40 And just to discourage someone from asking, "But would you use it if the time came?" let me point out that I spent a year with the 1st. Cavalry Division, 1950-'51. "From the Naktong to the Yalu".

Max (I need an "aggressive" dog)

[J. Clarke]

I think it makes no difference what she buys.

[Lobby Dosser]

Why would anyone think that she had LRHP rounds. Not the most common round. LR, maybe.

[Swingman]

Guinea hens ...

[Nova]

A co-worker tried six geese as "watch dogs" at his summer home in the country. The neighboring farmer, who was somewhat of a redneck, ate them all for dinner.

[Lew Hodgett]

-------------------------------------------- Guinea hens make a racket but a gander will also take of bite out of you.

Even worse, mama goose with a hatch of goslings.

I watched one rework a barn cat.

Lew

[Lew Hodgett]

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That was a real neighborly fellow.

When I first came to SoCal, there was a yard near the office for parking trucks overnight that used guard geese.

As far as I know, they had no problems.

Lew

[Larry Jaques]

On Mon, 3 May 2010 00:09:44 -0700, the infamous "Lobby Dosser" scrawled the following:

Hollowpoints are all I've ever bought, mostly for the explosive factor on cans and bottles full of water (or recycled beer, way back.) I don't recall seeing any roundpoints when I bought my last brick of 'em at BiMart. Anyone advising her would say "get a bigger gun if you're going to defend yourself with it." And they would advise either frangibles or hollow points for any caliber for self-defense use.

-- Courage is the power to let go of the familiar. -- Raymond Lindquist

[The Visitor]

The best I found was Abloy. But it is very commercial looking.

[Lobby Dosser]

And get the training ...

[Swingman]

He could have never done that with guineas ... unless he caught them roosting at night.

However, they do make a helluva gumbo!

:)

[Robatoy]