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Wow. I had a start capacitor go bad on a Trane compressor unit about 10 years ago and the entire bill (service call, part, and labor) from one of the local Austin service companies (Casa Mechanical) was about $60. I was quite pleased to pay that bill; I was worried it would be much more.

At least for computers, manufacturers seem to be going back to 2.1, since few people are willing to wire 5.1 (or 7.1) properly. At least that's how MaximumPC explains it, and it is consistent with market offerings. I picked up Logitech Z5500 (5.1) speakers on sale from Dell for about $200 about 5 or 6 years ago. They appear to be twice that now.

That's one ... there usually is another safety pan under the evaporator coils that, in the last 20 years +, most often drains outside.

Bet they did not point out that the huge LED array generates considerable heat. Adds to your air conditioning bill!

No they don't. Usually a quarter of similar size plasma, and less than a standard LCD with fluorescent backlight.

LEDs are used in the backlight. LED TVs aren't mini-Jumbotrons. They use a hell of a lot less electricity than does my 46" plasma (~500W).

The full LED arrays compare to the energy inefficiency of the plamas. Walk by either one from a couple feet and you can feel the heat.

Edgelit LED arrays are much more efficient, taking just a bit more than the comparably sized LCD. These are the way to go.

The 37" Vizio I helped my neighbor choose was LCD and takes 68 Watts. She's thrilled, moving up from a 26 year old 19" tube type.

-- Progress is the product of human agency. Things get better because we make them better. Things go wrong when we get too comfortable, when we fail to take risks or seize opportunities. -- Susan Rice

CNET has charts.. on average (46") plasma 400watts, LCD 120watts, LEDLCD 105 watts, edgelit banana 3 watts

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Are those the ones they label "LED-LCD"? It seems the back lit LEDs are getting a lot of credit for a better picture through "micro-dimming". As a CRT owner, you can be sure I'm a techno-snob--or that I don't watch much tv..lol. The last time I bought a tv the Internet was barely in its infancy! :) After a bit of window-shopping, the Samsung Smart TV more or less rose to the top, but I feel like even its Internet-related features are not "ready for prime time".

Bill

Hey Rob, thanks for finding this. I went looking for the info for a Samsung, and in the user manual it directed the user to the "tag on the unit" for power information!

A month ago, I would have thought LCD was fine. But if you look at an LCD and LED side-by-side, I think the LED makes a good case for itself (by being Much brighter). I was surprised by the amount of difference.

Bill

One of the biggest advantages of a LED display is the absence of heat. Much much cooler than the common LCD display which is many times over cooler than the old CRT.

I think you have your terminology mixed up. I personally have the old style LCD and the newer LED LCD screens. The LED LCD screen produces little to no heat after being on all day long and the lowest energy consumption of any regular LCD screen.

Not to mention, cooler, and much longer life expectancy over the florescent style LCD.

Cite,please. I defy you to show me a 46" TV which takes only 3W. That's bullshit and you know it, Toy. Those are edgelit numbers.

Everyone know that you need to do a full backlight on a banana if you want decent contrast, and that takes wattage.

-- Progress is the product of human agency. Things get better because we make them better. Things go wrong when we get too comfortable, when we fail to take risks or seize opportunities. -- Susan Rice

You obviously bought an edgelit model. There are two types.

-- Progress is the product of human agency. Things get better because we make them better. Things go wrong when we get too comfortable, when we fail to take risks or seize opportunities. -- Susan Rice

Musta been a mislabelled plasma. The ones I have seen are cool as a cucumber. My 46" plasma throws a fair bit of warmth, but what a picture. Especially now that I have it powered through a variac with conditioning. The 46 had a better picture than the 50 right next to it as it has the same amount of pixels but more densely packed.

Oh, and C-less, you don't know your bananas from your elbow.

Nope, back lit. Relatively inexpensive. As thick or thicker than the other regular LCD screens in my house. And no noticeable heat.

There are two types.

Baloney! White LEDs are not much more efficient than an incandescent bulb! White LEDs are not as efficient as the old fluorescent bulbs used in previous LCD sets. Manufacturer`s specs are with a bare element and the case and ballasts are never included in the specs.

Any LED TV gets just as warm as the fluor sets but not nearly as warm as a plasma. Check you specs carefully and notice how it always claims ``after calibration`` which means only visible when dark.

Nope, back lit. Relatively inexpensive. As thick or thicker than the other regular LCD screens in my house. And no noticeable heat.

There are two types.

types.http://hometheater.about.com/od/televisions/qt/ledlcdtvfacts.htm>> I put my hand on a few sets while we were looking at TVs and the LCD

I don't think so. The plasmas all have glass (glaring crap) screens and I believe this one had more of a matte screen.

But were they edgelit or full array? That's key. I'm thinking they were all edgelit.

Just "a fair bit", eh? Was there lots of a/c noise showing up as artifacts onscreen before the variac/line conditioner?

I know mine, but not others. I leave that to you banana barons, sir.

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