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Are you sure about that? Those would be prorated tag taxes, etc., but afaik diesel is only taxed at the pump just as is gasoline.

Reply to
Duane Bozarth
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I'm unaware of that restriction--what would be the purpose of building the Indian "Smoke Shop" on the side of the interstate w/ big billboards if they weren't after the general traveling public? (I never have bought tobacco products so don't really know, but sure doesn't look like any restriction anywhere I've been and there are a bunch of 'em in OK, TX, NM, AZ, KS, SD, etc., in the general area around here. That doesn't really cover the NW but I seem to recall them being pretty prominent when we were there last, as well.)

Reply to
Duane Bozarth

It's to sell to the general public. The Indian has been playing "piss on the white man" for years. They aren't supposed to do it, but they do and they know that nobody will do anything about it. Their fireworks stands are the same way. They know where people are taking them, they know that it is illegal, but they do it anyway.

Reply to
CW

I don't believe it's illegal is my point--at least in the areas around here.

As for the viewpoint of who's doing which to whom, I think there's some history there, perhaps?

Reply to
Duane Bozarth

That's not quite the same question as was posed earlier...

Hard to completely forget the past...I f> > >

Reply to
Duane Bozarth

They pay a fuel use tax. You must keep records of every gallon of fuel purchased and what state it was purchased in. You must log the miles driven in each state. Using the total miles driven and fuel purchased, you arrive at the mpg that the truck gets. Let's say you drove 100,000 miles and bought 12,000 gallons. That works out to 8.3 mpg. If you drove 2000 miles in Connecticut and bought no fuel there, you must pay the (state) tax on 241 gallons of fuel. If you have receipts for 300 gallons that you bought in that state, you would pay nothing additional and have a credit for the next reporting period. (usually quarterly) You must do this in every state you travel in You must have a fuel use permit for each state you travel in. Look at all the stickers on the doors of trucks. You can get a temporary three day in most states for a flat fee.

Reply to
Edwin Pawlowski

Sure is. Try to fallow along.

So, are you one of those who feel that we should still be apologizing? I'm not and neither are most thinking people. Nothing to apologize for in any case. Conquest was the rule of the day. If we hadn't done it, someone else would. The government, to this day, continues to screw over the Indian by continuing to pay them to stay on the reservation rather than encouraging them to assimilate with society. The majority of reservations are no more than slums. Yes, they have their casinos and smoke shops but the majority of that money does not get back to the tribe as a whole.

Reply to
CW

Not quite...first implied it was illegal to sell to anyone other than Indians, as opposed to not collecting same tax from various customers...

No, not really. Just pointing out there's some basis for them not being all that happy about the way things are...

Reply to
Duane Bozarth

But the only reason the stuff is cheaper is because they are NOT paying any taxes. Yes, one could open a smoke shop on a reservation and charge the taxes and it would be perfectly legal. Unfortunately, the shop would go out of business in short order :-).

Untaxed tobacco is legally for sale only to tribal members - a "sovereign nation" in the law.

That's why the states go after the purchasers and not the sellers - the sellers are outside their jurisdiction. There may be some exceptions to that, I'm not familiar with the wording of all (or any) of the pertinent treaties.

Reply to
lgb

Why, yes, now that you ask, I _am_ sure about that.

Tag taxes are an entirely separate can of worms.

Your knowledge _is_ incomplete/faulty. :)

That's not a sin, nor a crime, as long as you are willing to learn from those who *do* know.

Folks engaged in interstate transportation of goods via roadway have a sh*tload of reporting -- and taxation -- requirements that they must deal with. including reporting miles traveled in a given state, total miles travelled, and total fuel purchases. To _each_ state that they travel through. AND dealing with fuel taxes based on how much fuel they _consumed_ in each state, regardless of where it was bought. If they buy more in one state, than they consume in that state, they *do* get a carry-forward credit on the books, or (sometimes) a refund of that money from that state.

Reply to
Robert Bonomi

They were assimilated to their societies hundreds of years ago.

"Toss out who you are and where you came from... and become like one of us?"

There are other peoples on this planet, right now, who aren't too keen on that imposition either. To them, being the victims of conquest is the rule of today. I guess if we wait long enough, the apologies are no longer required/expected?

Then again, I could just be talking through my hat.... but it all depends on how you look at things, eh?

Reply to
Robatoy

Think you will find the Canucks have a little different perspective on this issue than the folks here in the US do.

Swapped a few lies and a lot of cold ones one Saturday night trying to resolve this issue with a fellow sailor, who happened to be a Canuck while in his home port.

He made some very interesting points that I have long since forgotten.

Lew

Reply to
Lew Hodgett

Different gummints, different problems.

A blog worth reading if you're interested the issue here in (western) Canuckistan is . Native POV but without the "I'm a viictim" attitude.

djb

Reply to
Dave Balderstone

Bandwidth Limit Exceeded Looks like you may have made someone a little too popular. Joe

Reply to
Joe Gorman

Is it where the FBI has all the best jobs earmarked?

I get =A313 an hour here in the UK but that is site work and on a self employed short term contract basis. Shop work is traditionally lower waged. But you'd get =A38 an hour or more to start. Not many joiners would take it on even if they were strapped.

And you would not have to find your own health insurance, dental treatment and that sort of thing. And there are usually bonus incentives.

But I think a few lads would take it on if they could get a permit to work in Florida. And be daft enough to come in the summer too.

Reply to
Weatherlawyer

There are no native Americans - at least not human ones. According to the paleontologists, we're ALL African-Americans :-).

Reply to
lgb

Word!

Reply to
Australopithecus scobis

encouraging

Change is a constant.

"Toss out who you are and where you came from"? You mean living in a slum or do you mean the way they were 150 years ago? One's undesirable, the other impossible.

required/expected?

I have nothing to apologize for and, unless you are 150 years old, neither do you.

on how you look at things, eh?

Reply to
CW

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