A friend recently found a new tool called the Dual Saw. He asked me if
I knew anything about it wondering if it was worth it for him to buy.
Since I had not heard of it before, he was wondering if anyone
in rec.woodworking could give us some feedback on it. TIA.
Omni Dual Saw: http://www.dualsaw.com
It certainly looks nifty, if it really lives up to it's show. But is
really good or just another dog and pony show?
Harbor freight has two variations, one 5" and runs 5500rpm and the
other 6 1/8" and runs @ 4600 rpm. The latter looks just like the
Craftsman (or should I say the Craftsman looks like the Chicago
electric). This technology has been around for some time in Europe. I
think it was actually invented by the Swedes or Germans ("and you know
the Germans always make good things", from Shamwow). The technology
really does work as far as the counter rotating blades cutting
cleaner, cooler, and easier. That's why it is used for rescue. As far
as the Craftsman burning up, that may be because it is only rated for
1/8" thickness metals. The Omni does say it turns at 6000 rpm and it
does have an amp rating on their site. As far as the cost of the
blades, Harbor Freight has replacement blades for $29.95 for their
saws so the Omni replacements are about right but you still have the
shipping. In the infomercials, they only make quick short cuts that do
not take longer than a few seconds and they probably change out the
saw every few cuts so that they don't burn them out. The original saws
that these were down sized from is the size of a large chain saw and
probably weighs about 60 lbs, i.e. rescue saw. Just one more thing.
Does Billie Mays yell like that at his wife? I take that back, he does
not have a wife because he probably does yell like that all the time.
Yeah, I'm as wary of Billy as I am Kevin Trudeau.
I missed the Ccraftsman version. I did pick up one a craftsman
roto-like kit and it has come in handy several tiimes but I guess they
weren't popular either as I do not see them anymore.
Thanks for the replies btw.
I grew up in Philadelphia, and we'd always go to the Atlantic City
boardwalk, where there were tons of pitchmen (similar to Vince), for
various kitchen products. Usually knives or slicer/dicers, etc.
(Today's AC boardwalk is nothing like the old days.) These pitchmen
are actually very talented at what they do, and today you will see
them at Home Shows in your cities or towns-- selling the various As
Seen On TV products. Personally, I love watching them "do their
thing." But, as far as Vince goes: He is my favorite! Vince is
giving his pitch with a "wink-wink", giving an extreme version of the
boardwalk pitch. They really would talk like that! And of course, they
all use that headset-mic. Vince's rendition is very accurate, very
extreme, and very funny (on purpose).
As for the Dual Saw: There is a new reality-type TV show on Discovery
Channel, called "Pitchmen". It stars Billy Mays and the other guy
(British, can't think of his name). (They apparently now have some
sort of working relationship to sell products together.) I've seen the
TV show twice, and recommend it. It takes you behind the scenes of
the marketing of the many "As Seen on TV" type products-- from the
outset of picking a product, to the filming of commercials, etc. The
Dual Saw product was featured on the first episode I watched. I had
never heard of the Dual Saw before, never saw an infomercial about it,
etc. So, that's why I googled Dual Saw and found this discussion.
The Dual Saw gets a lot more exposure in the TV show: It was invented
by a French firefighter, can cut through any type of material,
including glass, concrete, steel, etc., has no kickback (safety
feature for firefighters), no vibration (cut's eggshell into two
halves), low friction heat (can cut gasoline-soaked materials w/o
causing an explosion or flame! But best not to try that at home.). It
cut a car in half in the show. (They accidentally cut a gas line, and
there was no flame/explosion). Of course the TV show is edited, but I
do not sense that blades were being changed at any time during the
filming of the demonstrations. If you can watch this episode, you
judge for yourself. The TV show gives a lot more information than the
1 minute infomercial, so I think the product becomes more impressive.
The pricing for the test marketing was about $100 (I think), so
they've upped the price. I don't know how this product relates to the
Craftsman dual saw referenced in the discussion. But, the French
firefighter claims to have invented it. That's all I know.
I don't think Vince would be good for selling this product (would you
buy a $220 Dual Saw from funnyman Vince?), but I guess Billy Mays and
the British guy have more- serious personna.
I really want to thank those that posted links to alternative
I've sure learned a lot about these saws since my first search a few
days ago that led me to this group.
There's obviously at least two of these saws; possibly all from the
The "Dual Saw" is the smaller 5" model with a small motor, and is
probably, from the reviews I found on another site, the one that Sears
discontinued because they were constantly going up in smoke the first
time they were used long enough to get hot. (Sears still carries the
5" blades but not that saw).
Sears now sells the 6 1/4" model, with a motor that's nearly 2 1/2
times more powerful... ...and they're either closing them out or
giving them away in one of their super-sales!
I'm now a proud owner... ...they were out of stock on-line, but I
searched a bunch of stores and found several in stock (had to drive 30
miles round-trip, but it was well worth it. They sell the 6 1/4"
regularly for $169.99, but right now (through May) have it on sale for
$109.99!! ($60 savings). With my Craftsman Club discount, I brought
it home for under $100!!!! ...sure beats the heck out of $220 for an
I still haven't tried it out yet, but the reviews were good on the
larger model... ...and there's always the Sears 100% satisfaction
...sure glad I found this site in a Goggle search :)
On May 17, 7:48 pm, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
With that said you should carefully examine the warranty statement for
the Dual Saw: https://www.dualsaw.com/faq.html
"We will replace the unit free of charge during the term of the
guarantee as long as the deficiencies are clearly caused by
construction or material faults, if the machine is returned to us in
the defective condition, S&H paid. The guarantee does not apply for
defects from normal wear, negligence, abnormal or overloading, and
does not cover cables, plugs, or carbon brushes."
If you cut something that takes longer than 2 seconds to cut through
and it burns out the saw are they going to claim it is not covered
under warranty because you over loaded it?
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