no more Jet for me

[Electric Comet]

I heard laguna resharpen these blades and the blades are not cheap but they do things that cannot be done with other bandsaw/blade combos

worthless as a conventional veneer but useful for other things

but I'd still never heard of them, wish i had though

Ok but the designs are still significant and standout

regarding rikon I don't know them either but giving a quick look it looks just like all the other players where as the laguna bandsaws really standout, the ceramic guides as you pointed out, etc.

I was amazed what the guy was doing with a bandsaw, I think it was a video for the fence system but still was something I didn't know could be done with a bandsaw

[Leon]

The Resaw King is a b-metal blade, although not carbide. The blade is indeed expensive and but can be resharpened by Laguna. I only use mine on special occasions when I want maximum yield on veneers. I can't say if there is another blade or not that cuts as well as the Resaw King

A pretty much direct competitor to Laguna is MiniMax. I considered that saw also but had issues with the home office/showroom floor when I made an appointment to see a particular saw and traveled 180 miles to do so. The day before the appointment they had the saw, the next day when I arrived they had a cannibalized model.

They do from the Laguna Exclusive guides and perhaps the Baldor motors but they do resemble a few other Italian made BS's that all come from the same factory. But yes it was the specific differences that sold me.

Yeah! the MiniMax that I mentioned above is every bit as robust as the Italian Lagunas. When I visited the showroom the rep was building a nice piece of furniture and only using a band saw to make all of the cuts. He also indicated that a good BS needs no guides... He demoed cutting several pieces of scrap with the guides removed. This fact is one of the reasons I went the extra mile in expense to get a good HD BS. If you don't need guides you know that the saw is sound enough to hold its settings and not have to be tweaked regularly.

[John McCoy]

"Mike Marlow" wrote in news:mcohqo$knm$ [e-mail]:

Wouldn't say I have more than a passing understanding. Back in the day, our mechanical engineers used to come up with these massively strong, inordinately heavy steel brackets, and I picked up some of the issues with plastic argueing with them why we couldn't have an alternative. Biggest reason in our case was volume - for small qtys it's cheaper to form steel.

John

[John McCoy]

[e-mail] wrote in news: [e-mail]:

No, standard bed on a full-size pickup is 6'6". The double door models have a bed of 5'6". 8' is long bed, you can get that with extended cab, but if you want it with the full double doors you have to go to a 3/4 or 1 ton model.

The big problem with a long bed is the truck ends up with a huge turning circle - 53' for mine (I hate to think what it is for a crew cab F250). That makes things like parking and u-turns (need 4 lanes of road) a pain.

John

[Leon]

FWIW here are a couple of pictures of a piece of red oak that I resawed with a common 1/2" blade on the Laguna.

[dpb]

On 02/26/2015 8:37 PM, [e-mail] wrote: ...

There isn't any "standard"; they're all options at build time. Certainly any more w/ the extended and quad cabs you see far fewer full-length than shorter because the wheel bases are so long, particularly for the full 4-door.

Even out here in farm and oil country I'd guess 75% of even 2DR are shortbeds because 80% are "townies", not really ever used as trucks.

[John McCoy]

dpb wrote in news:mcqo2l$b7h$ [e-mail]:

Around here you see a lot of the 4 door, extra-short bed trucks because people use them to pull boats. An SUV would be more practical, but the pickups are cheaper.

OTOH, you also see a lot of dualies with aftermarket wheels, lift kits, bed covers, and no trailer hitch, and you know those are just d*ck size compensation. Purely for show.

John

[Bill]

Speaking of Jet, their 15% off sale starts today (see Woodcraft, et. al.).

Anything you've been waiting for?

The 12" disc sander with stand and dust collector is tempting to me... ($475 instead of $559).

Is there a better way to "round-off" the ends of two by fours?

[Ed Pawlowski]

No, I NEED that After all, I pick up a few potted plants for the wife and a bag of fertilizer for the lawn.

I have to laugh at some of the owners. Do they ever wonder how Europe got built using those small trucks?

[Doug Winterburn]

My long bed Duramax regular cab (no duallie cause it wouldn't fit in the gar^H^H^Hshop) is ideal for towing our 5th wheel. We spend about 4 months a year for the last 8 years seeing our beautiful country. The long bed has a lot of advantages when towing a 5th wheel as well as hauling sheet goods and lumber.

[John McCoy]

Doug Winterburn wrote in news:54f10d0a$0$4493 $b1db1813$ [e-mail]:

Yeah, good point. The extra wheelbase helps pulling any kind of a trailer, because it adds more resistance to the trailer pushing the truck around.

John

[John McCoy]

Bill wrote in news: [e-mail]:

Hand plane!

John

[John Grossbohlin]

Though there could be a fifth wheel hitch under the bed cover... rather than a receiver hitch. ;~)

[Electric Comet]

they have a limit on the number of resharpens but it's 10 or so and that would last a long time unless the blade's abused and needed more sharpenings

but that alone can't have swayed you entirely

have not heard of minimax either will have to look

I see, can italian made BSs be bought in US?

makes sense but it also means a lot of engineering has to go into the wheels and axles, hence the higher price but that's ok

i do like to learn about what's out there and the state of the art but I will make do with what i have and i enjoy improvising improvising provides some challenges and sometimes leads to accidental insights that I'd have missed otherwise

[Electric Comet]

stock up on spare parts for it too

[Doug Winterburn]

Big difference between a 5th wheel and a trailer. Never had the 5th wheel doing any of the "pushing around" thing.

[Doug Winterburn]

...and no need to worry about tearing up the cab with the long box when making a sharp turn and no need for a sliding hitch.

[Puckdropper]

Ed Pawlowski wrote in news:VZWdnTUgKfDikWzJnZ2dnUU7- [e-mail]:

Oh I know! *raises hand excitedly and jumps* I know! I know!

They used under-powered Kias* to pull caravans to and from the jobsite!

*Caravaner club's towcar of the year

Puckdropper

[Ed Pawlowski]

That for the really big jobs. One day we were sitting outside having a cappuchino and watched two guys unloading material from a small truck onto a dolly and pushing it a half block down a narrow street. I imagine most of the building was delivered on a dolly or back of a donkey.

We rented an apartment in a villa built in the 1500's. Even today, you'd have a hard time getting anything larger than a full sized pickup up the road on the side of the hill. I cannot imagine how they got materials to the site back then. Lots of stone, big timbers.

[krw]

You're right, of course. I was thinking about the frame I use for 12' lumber (etc.). It hangs off the *tailgate* four feet, so the bed is

6-1/2' with 18" for the tailgate. Of course sheet goods fit in the bed nicely (with the tailgate down ;-).

It's been so long since I carried anything in it that I forgot. ;-) ...couple of more months...

Yes, a standard bed with a full size truck is bad enough. Another

1-1/2 feet would make it unmanageable. It wouldn't fit in my garage, either. ;-)