: He listed the prices for everything that he has available for sale. So : where's the beef?
No, he didn't.
: What point is that? If Oneida's using the same motor then how is it : "better"?
Um, it's not using the same motor.
:> :> 3) You list no information concerning the airflow in a real :> : workshop :> :> situation. :> :> : Airflow (as well as the corresponding pressure drop variable) is :> : dependant upon the system ducting and hookups. There are many :> : variables which prevent any guaranteed performance for all situations. :> : This is something that Oneida and other vendors won't tell you. It :> : helps them sell their product. :> :> Sure, but he could at least post this sort of comparative info: :> :>
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Any response to this?
:> : Sorely lacking is a bit harsh, considering what Clarke is offering for :> : the average woodworker. I am now building one of Clarke's cyclones.
God for you. I'd like to hear, after you finish, how much time it took, what it ended up costing, and how the system performs under the criteria used by Oneida in their posted specs. :> :> But the 2 or 3HP Oneida system is just fine for a recreational hobbiest. :> And I doubt you could build one from Clarke's kit for 1/3 to 1.4 the price :> of those.
: Andrew, I think you have some fundamental misconceptions about what Clarke : is offering.
You didn't address the point I made above: Clarke's kit does not offer the same performance as an Oneida system for one-third to one-quarter the price.
And I don't think I have any misconceptions about Clarke's system. It's a kit, with unknown performance, which costs about as much (when you fill in the unprovided parts) as a Oneida system which has known specs.
: Forget Clarke's site entirely and go to : . Clarke is offering : precut sheet metal parts for one variant of that system, and a welded up : blower housing.
AND a claim that his system beats Oneida on price and performance, with zero hard evidence to back that up.
: As for the motors, Leeson will be happy to sell you a different motor if you : don't like the one that Bill recommends. Given that it's a 5 horse motor : rated on the nameplate for continuous duty
No, it's rated for compressor duty.
, that it's derated to 3 : horsepower by the design of the cyclone and blower
I have no idea what this means.
, and that Leeson sells : the same basic design as a general purpose 3 horsepower continuous duty : motor, I think your concerns are a bit overblown.
the SAME motor? I don't think so.
-- Andy Barss