I am looking at some miter saws here in the US, to upgrade the cheapie B & D
that I bought about 15 years ago. I am torn between 3 models at a local
Home Depot, all about $200. I don't recall the model number of the Rigid ,
but any general comments/opinions about the relative merits of each brand
would be appreciated.
I am leaning towards the DeWalt, but am open-minded.
DeWalt has long been considered one of the best. I have the 12" and like it
very much. I've not used the other brands, but Delta has gotten good
reviews, as has Bosch. Make sure the handle feels comfortable to you. I
prefer the horizontal D handle.
I've got the Bosch 4412. SCMS, of course, controls all up front, excellent
out-of-the-box blade, wonderfully easy to use, slick looking (for those who
care), with a D handle that can be used horizontally or vertically. The only
problem is the price: I think Amazon gets 7 bills for it.
IMO, it's worth it if you have much use for a CMS that will cut 12-1/2" wide
boards very accurately and very quickly, all day long. Otherwise, it's a great
item to have to impress the neighbors (sure: most of my neighbors here and in
VA will never see the inside of my shop).
"To create man was a quaint and original idea, but to add the sheep was
tautology." Mark Twain's Notebook
I like the Milwaukee but it doesn't seem to ever be reviewed. Charlie,
is there a reason why other than the fact that it is not a slider?
On 29 Jan 2004 17:51:48 GMT, firstname.lastname@example.org (Charlie Self)
I did a review that included the Milwaukee slider a few years ago. As I recall,
there was some problem with extra illustrations and a lack of cooperation
betwixt either the company and the magazine or the PR outfit and the magazine,
which resulted, IIRC, in the saw being dropped from that piece. But that's
about a 4-5 year old memory, as outdated as the review would be now.
You know the old saying, "Sh*t happens." I recall about 23-24-25 years ago
doing an article for Pop. Science on a new type of hardboard roofing that
looked like wood shakes. Company supplied the roofing, my brother and I
re-roofed a house, I wrote the article, included a bunch of photos, and it ran.
Next thing I know, my editor at PS was jumping all over me because the company
was bitching that the product was not available in the East, so should not have
been used. Thingis, they'd shipped us the material. Address in Virginia.
Someone screwed up, and I got most of the blame, though I had no way of knowing
where the company intended to sell the stuff (don't even know now if they ever
What the hell. Mom got a new roof (though the house didn't really need one) and
my brother and I learned to hate each other all over again. Maybe it was worth
Point being, though, the writer seldom knows what the hell is going on.
"All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is
My experience with the DeWalt 705 12" is much like Ed's. In homeowner -
handyman - furniture maker wannabe abuse, it has held up very well. It
seems to be available at the Orange BORG for $299 most of the time.
The blade was upgraded to the DeWalt finishing blade. A sacrificial
temporary fence also helps reduce tearout, and increase operator accuracy.
I have no valid opinions on other miter saws. ;-)
Up until this Christmas I had the ~$150 Delta 10" compound miter saw and
hated it. The back guides were warped so you couldn't get the left and
right to cut the same, and it just would NOT stay square. You could
fiddle with it for an hour and it would make perfect cuts for a couple of
days and then it would drift off again.
I got the new Porter Cable 12" with the laser sites and WOW what an
upgrade! I think you can get the Delta badged model of the same thing
for about $50 less, but I didn't just couldn't bring myself to buy
I've also used the Dewalt 12" and it is a nice piece as well. I
personally liked the bells and whistles on the Porter Cable better, but
that is strictly an opinion. The Dewalt is certainly a good machine.
If I were you, I'd go for a 12" model even if you have to increase your
price range a bit. If the saw isn't repeatable, you might as well stick
with the Black and Decker you have now.
I'll tell ya, I bought the Delta twin laser over the holidays and I'm
not too impressed so far. Out of the box the left laser line was way
off (easy to adjust though), and I -still- haven't managed to get it
to cut perfectly straight at the 0 degree setting. That, and the
plastic throat plate had obvious signs of being cut into by the blade
- probably whenever they did the test cut at the factory. Looks like
very sloppy QC to me.
It seems like a reasonably well-built and solid saw over all, but
after fiddling with it for a number of hours I'm still left wondering
if I got a lemon or if I'm just missing some bizarre and subtle nuance
to adjusting it.
Disclaimer: I'm a relative newbie to all of this, but I know how to
use a square and I know how to follow directions. I bought a Delta 12"
bandsaw at the same time as the twinlaser miter, and have had no
problems with it so far. That one went together like a breeze and has
being working like a charm ever since.
About the only good thing I have to say about this saw -so far- is
that it was a helluva bargain (if I can ever get it work right, that
is...) - about $180 at the Blue Borg, due to their 20% off weekend
sale plus a $50 mail-in rebate. For a tool that sells elsewhere for
between $300-$350 I'd say that's a good deal. I can probably still
sell the thing and not lose money if I decide not to keep it.
My Porter Cable was dead on perfect in every adjustment right out of the
box. About the only thing I had to do was move the compound adjustment.
The stop was right, but it had moved during shipment.
The lasers were also EXACTLY right. They are set up so that the laser
lines are left (the blade cuts in between) but they tend to hide pencil
marks so I think I'm going to adjust them so that the lasers fall inside
email@example.com (Pet Quality) wrote in
I know you're looking at a 10" Dewalt but for an other hundred
dollars you will get a much more useable saw. I've had a DW705 12"
saw for more than 8 years of heavy use. The switch went bad about 3
months ago in the middle of a job. I replaced it with another DW705. I
looked at the others, but came back to the same saw. Works for me!
Get a 12" . I have a 10" Milwaukee and I love it but sometimes the
extra 2" would come in mighty handy. Wonder why the big Mil. doesn't
make a 12".
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:18:19 -0600 (CST), firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 12:21:07 -0600, Lawrence A. Ramsey wrote
I suspect this is why they make the slidiing version. I know my SCMS came in
very handy this past weekend during a fence repair project. No way I could
have cut some of the boards with a 10- or 12-in CMS. I had to use either a TS
or a SCMS.
One of the reasons I went with the 10-in SCMS was because you really don't
get that much more cutting room with a 12-in blade (plus I already had a
fairly new Forrest 10-in MS blade and didn't want to have to buy another
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