On 2/20/2014 4:46 PM, email@example.com wrote:
Now I will say........ I had a dead blow mallet back in the 70's. It
eventually degraded and the plastic disintegrated and left the steel
handle and a shot gun shell sized capsule partially filled with the pellets.
I suspect that a lot of the bounce back is also absorbed by the plastic
material that is used to encase the steel parts.
For the past 20 or so years I have used one of those smaller hammers
with a red rubber face on one end and a yellow plastic face on the
other. The plastic face end is a similar plastic that is used on the
dead blow mallets. My current non dead blow hammer does not have much
bounce back either....
Yup, I could buy a cheap knockoff from Harbour Freight for a lot less
money. Then I could add on mailing costs, duty garbage and several
weeks time waiting for it to come across the border into Canada.
Good idea Lew. I'll keep that idea in mind the next time I want to buy
some cheap tool garbage.
Well, we've got a Princess Auto which isn't too far removed. But, to
tell the truth, the main reason I buy from Lee Valley aside from the
quality of their tools is their service. I can search out cheap or
quality tools almost anywhere. I *can't* get top notch service if I
have a problem or complaint most places.
I'm just about to hit sixty and my wants have changed significantly.
Take food as an example. When I was younger I mostly had quantity on
my mind. That's changed and now I almost exclusively seek out quality.
~ That concept has transferred over to a significant portion of my
It's NOT buying cheap garbage,
it is the prudent utilization of ones available resources. <wink>
It's all a matter of perspective.
Ok, I'll let you get away with that one. But, consider a significant
amount of the comments posted here in regards to the cheap crap that
floods into our North American market.
The demand for all the cheap shit has destroyed much of the quality
goods markets that made us great in the first place. All that's left
is for us to spiral down the drain. It's a slippery slope that there's
not turning back from, at least not as far as I can see.
Sure, I know what you're saying. Taking the dead blow hammer that was
under discussion, any cheap dead blow would likely do, I can't deny
that. For me, it mostly comes down to what's easier or less time
consuming. Cost often comes in third.
When it comes to tools, I like most of what Lee Valley sells. If I
ever have any problem at all, they take care of it right away. One of
their biggest stores is close to where I live. If I can't get there,
my closest friend lives very close to one of their stores.
I've got a driver's license, but don't own a car. Because of the
chair, for me to go running around or spreading my dollars a little
more judiciously, it takes me considerable time than most. I guess my
position is a little more unique that most, but it's what works for
me. I'll even admit that I'm probably mired in my ways and not so
inclined to change.
It's pretty simple.
To paraphrase a famous country/western song:
You got the money, honey,
I got the time,
You got no more money, honey,
I got no more time.
There will always be a high end market.
The question remains, "Can you afford it?"
And there are places for the cheap crap. My brother works as a high
steel welder. One of the companies he works for buys $40 angle grinders
for work on site. Why? Because they grow legs and trip into the back of
But I think a lot of people simply have no clue that when a tool is
advertised as "just like the pros use" it doesn't mean "professional
quality work by people who are proud of their skill and craft", it
means "anybody who can convince somebody else to part with some money".
³Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness
sobered, but stupid lasts forever.² -- Aristophanes
I use H/F for consumable items.
Gloves, chip brushes, pneumatic quick connect fittings,
light weight bar clamps, bottle jacks, some pneumatic hand tools, etc.
Air hoses are strictly a consumable item, with Goodyear rubber hoses
being the possible exception. The price has to reflect the fact they
throw away items.
I have yet to find an electric hand tool that can handle the
dust generated when working glass.
For working in glass, you have Milwaukee and you have Milwaukee.
On Thursday, February 20, 2014 5:06:50 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
inside of the cavity. A ball dropped from one end of a cavity to the other
is going to bounce.
It helps to cancel out the mallet bouncing back. I'm not arguing this poin
t. We agree here.
There is bouncing in either case that results in an energy loss. This does
n't address the deadblow's claimed increase in efficiency.
Hundreds (arbitrary) of shots smacking into the bottom of a cavity or a sho
t filled cavity are going to bounce and bang around. The sum loss in energ
y from the bounce back (including any collisions between each other) of eac
h shot is going to be significant.
If you were to compare the efficiency of a deadblow's strike and a mallet o
f equal mass and size (shot filled w/ no empty space), and take into accoun
t the above, I wouldn't expect an increase in efficiency from the deadblow.
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