FWW Article: "you can't be serious" abount clamping.

Don Martin is one of my very favourite artists. That guy could express emotions in the silliest ways. His Mona Lisa is my favourite and I used it many times in a few Photoshop contests to wit:

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Turns out the "journalist" in this case is a University professor with several publications on the topic of glueline strength in wood.

While one may disagree with his results, I'd argue that he is an 'expert'.

scott

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Scott Lurndal

His results are probably "spot on" for what he tested, but it's the applicability and usefulness for the intended audience I question... :)

In particular, notice in the abstract of the paper I posted earlier the testing was for shear strength of the joint which is rarely the failure mode in most furniture glue joints. It also neglects that most well-fitting joints in testing through the years at much lower clamping pressures will break the wood rather than the glue joint. Once the joint is as strong or stronger than the wood, there's very little if any point in worrying about making it stronger. In short, the results may have some limited applicability for commercial manufacturing processes for which I strongly suspect the research was directed, but think it of little practical value for the average guy reading FWW.

None of this directed at you, just one last thought I had on the overall subject and this seemed convenient place to put it in...

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dpb

Timothy Leary had a PHD in psychology.

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willshak

Didn't see this before I posted. If I get a chance I'll check out the FWW article. I haven't received FWW since 1992 so I will have to wait for it to hit the newsstands.

Based on the references you posted above, it would seem that they erred in the opposite direction this time: too academic.

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Ed Bennett

Indeed. I didn't see that tidbit until after posting. I still maintain that it was the journalist types who decided that he was the right guy for the article. It's kind of like hiring a Phd in electormagnetic wave propagation to tell you what's on TV tonight.

I've talked to several of these magazine editors about the lack of any technical expertise on their staffs. I've suggested that they need someone who is familiar with basic experimental design and data collection. They just don't understand why. It doesn't take a Phd, just someone who has taken some undergrad experimental science courses. The "Myth Busters" guys, while not always designing perfect experiments, consistently do better than anything I've seen in the woodworking magazines. And, they don't mind doing more experiments when someone pokes holes in the results (as opposed to the "we stand by our results" BS).

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Swingman

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Robatoy

Except they left every bit of the basis for the recommendation out of the article as well as any discussion of difference in results in not following the recommendation (which of course there's a tremendous amount of data that says gluelines don't fail at far lower clamping pressures).

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dpb

Are you sure he even used glue?

Sounds to me like he's trying to force the atoms in the separate pieces of wood to intermingle and form a single, contiguous piece. Forge welding wood?

Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA

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Tom Veatch

And he was an expert on LSD.

scott (pun intended)

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Scott Lurndal

When I got my complimentary issue I ran out of the house like it was on fire. I couldn't get away fast enough.

Bu the sad truth is that when I go to B&N to peruse the magazines, I do enjoy looking at those tan bodied, long-legged doctor killers on the magazines. 23 years old, legs about he length of my waist size, and you could strike a match on their stomach.

But the magazines I actually pick up have ridiculous crap on them like "cordless drill shootout", and "learning to make perfect dovetails with your screwdrivers" and some such nonesense.

Sigh.

Robert

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nailshooter41

Alright, NOW THAT'S FUNNY.

All I have to worry about is nosehair in my moustache.

Robert

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nailshooter41

Complete with toes that hang straight down over a sawhorse lip?

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B A R R Y

Any good sites with photos of wood?

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B A R R Y

Aren't air brushes great. ;~)

Yup.

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Leon

Just wait till some of that "nosehair" starts growing on the outside of the appendage!

Nature will eventually humble you, one way or the other ...

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Swingman

"Robatoy" wrote

It's certainly what Hillary and Obama are both hoping for in order to be a winner. :)

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Swingman

You do know that there are several different satellite Internet services available that are available pretty much anywhere in North America except a cave, and are reasonably affordable? They aren't as inexpensive as DSL or cable where those are available, but they're getting pretty close and I believe they all offer residential flat rate plans vs. the old per KB type plans.

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Pete C.

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Well, actually, the local ISP has put a wireless transmitter on the microwave tower north of the house that should be within range. The short coming to date is getting a line-of-sight location to it without cutting into the windbreak--here, having that is worth far more than broadband! :) The plan is when get the barn renovation done, to put the receiver in the cupola which is high enough to be above the cedars and a wireless router to the house. The holdup is far more pressing things on the schedule so it's more fun to complain about the shortcoming... :)

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dpb

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