The rep for TSTI (or TSI) that was the holding company told me they
are both his products, along with Ryobi USA and a couple of others,
including a paint brush company.
He moved me over to Ridgid as he could see there was no sale on the
Milwaukee products, most of which are now made overseas. That shift
started well before their sale to the holding company.
But being a good sales rep, he sold me what he had in his line, making
sure I didn't go to another brand he didn't represent. As a sidebar,
the feel of the Ridgid and the Milwaukee are eerily similar.
Thanks Robert, I steered my BIL towards Ridgid shortly after the hurricane.
He is an occasional user and I really pushed the life time warranty on the
battery as being something he would probably appreciate.
I got the Milwaukee, $103 at Amazon. Two batteries, one drill, but otherwise
sounds about the same, lights, fast charger, case and all. HD wasn't
offering the promo back then. I don't feel a loss for having to swap the
driver for a drill bit. The change is quick and easy. More to the point,
though, the 500 RPM driver is a bit slow for drilling. I prefer a normal
corded drill for making lots of holes. (If it's not lots of holes, I guess
it doesn't matter so much how often you swap or don't swap the bits, or how
slow it spins.) It's a great little driver that can also make a few holes.
As to who they are, Milwaukee is a US headquarted company, owned by the
European conglomerate that also owns Ryobi and a few others. Ridgid doesn't
say much on their website about where and who they are.
I don't see the hex chuck as being all that much of a disadvantage
anymore. One can buy regular chucks with hex shanks that snap right
in (get the deWalt or the Milwaukee, not the Makita that Home Despot
sells--the Makita's shaft has a shoulder on it that's a bit short for
most hex chucks and needs some grinding before it will lock in on some
drills and drivers and isn't all that great a chuck to begin with).
That said, I'd go with an impact driver over a drill for screws.
Reasons? That Milwaukee drill gives you up to 500 rpm and 100
inch-pounds of torque. The equivalent impact driver in the Milwaukee
range is a hair smaller, a hair heavier, gives you up to 2000 RPM and
850 inch-pounds and doesn't fight you. You do pay about 70 bucks more
for the impact driver though.
Only problem with impact drivers is that they're loud. Frequently, I find
myself putting something together in my living room in the middle of the
night. Don't think the neighbours would appreciate that too much.
Agreed, I have both a Makita drill and impact driver. Each has it's own set
of pluses. The impact is a brute but like most impacts, is noisy and tends
to be too aggressive for some screws. With the exception of the Panasonic
and perhaps a few others the impacts cannot be preset to a particular torque
morning trip somewhere. I use a compressor top up the pressure on my
wheelchair tires, but I can't (won't) use it for my late night preparations.
I had to go out and buy myself a decent manual pump
I remember years ago, bringing a old fashioned manual tire pump out to pump
up a couple car tires that were underinflated. The people who were visiting
went nuts. They had never seen a human operated tire pump before. They acted
like it was civil war technology and I had an operational antique. I grew
up on the farm where everything from tractor tires to anything else on
wheels were pumped up by hand. I guess that isn't so common anymore.
<feeling old and hurtin' a little>
Dang!!! That'd take some time for a 18.4-38 rear tractor tire for the
volume alone. (And 38" rims are getting to be on the small side these
I think a compressor was one of the first things Grandpa got when got
REA power (in '48) -- just too much time and compressed air too useful
for other things to not have.
Having a manual pump as reserve is useful and wise, however, in vehicle
The tractor tires were filled mostly with water to increase weight. We just
topped them off with air. What was really hard was pouring water into that
little hole....... Just kidding. We had a special attachment for the hose
for this purpose. :)
And most of our farm equipment was converted from the horse drawn era. Which
meant that the tires were steel. Although we did have a couple new fangled
trailers with air inflated tires. And the trucks were had rubber tires. But
they started with cranks too. I remember when the big modification on the
trucks were to update their 6 volt systems to 12 volt.
Can't fill over about half -- we use CaCl solution, too. Still a lot of
volume for a hand pump...
I'm only old enough to remember the Farmall M's as the first tractors
were actively using--by then the old steel-wheel Twin City while it
still would run had been parked and the little Cat 22's that they used
through the 30s for all the row crop work had also been retired as they
had gone from the pull-type 3-row to the 4-row draw bar arrangement.
This was early 50s by then.
All the old horse/mule-drawn equipment was long gone by then, of course,
although there are still pieces sitting in the old equipment row. The
oldest thing we were using then was the '28 Chevy truck which was what I
learned to drive first. It was pretty kewl--still hate it that Dad let
it go while brother and I were off in college and didn't know he was
even thinking about it.
The difference then to now is truly amazing -- now we're up to 12- or
16-row row crop w/ GPS and field monitors that actually place each seed
kernel a precise distance apart on planting or give moisture and
localized yield maps on the fly while harvesting...
The old timers would also refill a tire with propane when they were low.
Having worked in tire stores in my early years we were always very cautious
to question a farmer about what he used to refil all of his tires when they
There's still signs in modern shops today reminding workers not to smoke
when working on tires. It seems some of the fix-a-flat stuff uses
flammable material (probably butante) to inflate the tire.
If you're quiet, your teeth never touch your ankles.
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Now *that* conjures up some memories. Some 35 years ago, I had a job
delivering flowers in a company supplied car. Naturally, all the cars in the
fleet were wrecks. Anyway, 3-4 times a week, I'd get a flat tire because all
the tires were bald. I'd get out my trusty tire pump, inflate the tire
enough so I could see where to insert a rubber plug doused in rubber cement
and then inflate the tire up to proper pressure. It must have looked
ridiculous to people passing by seeing some idiot at the side of the road
frantically pumping up one of his car tires.
Right there with you 100% Leon. The screws (especially the finish
screws) I seem to get these days are so soft it is ridiculous. And
about half the time the phillips bits don't really seem to fit well at
all. Just a little too much drill, and the heads get damaged or
stripped. Unacceptable on finish hardware.
If you note above, I said I dry fit the cabinet components before
finishing. I actually go buy bulk blister packs of screws that are
the same size as the trim screws for the hinges. I use them, then
throw hem away. All the screws are made with the softest material
possible to save wear and tear on their equipment in China. They are
just plain crap.
They are the reason I don't use my larger drills to assemble the
cabs. And the reason I like this new little find (at least for now!)
is that my 14.4 is too much and too bulky for driving 5/8" #6 screws,
and my power screwdriver doesn't feel right when "driving" a screw.
I think torque settings are good on the impact guns, but not so much
so on drills. I just turn mine to drill. When driving into
inconsistent materials, it is too much of a pain for me to fiddle with
the torque settings. I leave it on drill, and it's always where it
should be for me. I get used to the "feel" of the drill.
That's another reason for a smaller drill. My bigger drills have
always swamped these little screws, but I don't have the wrists to
drive 300+ screws a day anymore, I don't care what size they are. I
like the control of the smaller unit.
Uh huh, that is why I was real reluctant to finally go to a 12 volt after 3
or 4, 9.6 volt models.
I used to use, some 27 or so years ago, a tiny Skil 3 volt screw driver that
looked like a small drill. It were great 95% of the time.
That can be a PIA, the Makita has the typical torque ring behind the chuck
but also has a drill/driver switch behind the ring. Either push the spring
loaded switch over to go into preset clutch screw mode or push a release
button on the switch to go back to drill mode, or visa versa. Quick and
I've been saying that for years, strong or not why lug around all the
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'Memory' never really existed anyway - except for specific satellite
applications that had a very precisely controlled charge-discharge
regime and a specific battery chemistry. That's not to say an
occasional deep discharge is bad, but it's not good if individual
cells get reverse polarised. I certainly wouldn't go out of my way to
ever intentionally discharge a battery nor buy a charger that did the
Discharging any battery before charging is normally a waste of time
and energy particularly when chargers exist that can control very
precisely the charge curve to ensure extremely short charge times
without overcharging and overheating together with conditioning of
cells to avoid whisker growth.
In the case of lithium-ion batteries now coming into the portable tool
market a full discharge kills them years before their time - lots of
top ups before the discharge gets too much is the way to go.
I routinely run my five year old Bosch drill Nicad's to the point at
which they become incapable of drilling or screwing at a reasonable
speed. Then fit the other battery. I struggle to discharge a fresh
battery before the discharged one is ready for service. In case they
ever go faulty the cost of new ones is so high I'll either re-cell
them with some modern cell, or given the hug falls in the price of new
tools, buy a new drill.
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