On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 1:05:09 PM UTC-7, Electric Comet wrote:
The owner has NEVER ever built a website. Seems he might be techo-phobic or
just not interested in having to maintain a site. You can request a catalo
g (yes it's printed!) and you will get one in about month (it seems they on
ly send them out when they have a print run).
be techo-phobic or just not interested in having to maintain a site.
You can request a catalog (yes it's printed!) and you will get one in
about month (it seems they only send them out when they have a print run).
Catalog copy (2010) pdf located here:
Doubt that free and reliable makes a difference. Still plenty of people
that see no need for computers and those phones that don't have cords
Gota go now. I have to get a new ribbon for my Royal typewriter so I
can mail a few letters to my friends.
The domain name and webhosting are EASY. They're also CHEAP as a
business expense goes, ~$5/month for hosting and ~$10 per year for a
domain name. (You have to be willing to shop the domain name around,
they give you a $10 offer then bump it up to 50 or more the next renewal
period. Fortunately, you can rent it for 8-9 years at a time.)
What to put on the site, how to put it on the site and look good, how
not to drive your potential readers away in 5 seconds, etc... those are
the hard parts. It will also be the expensive part, but well worth it.
There are some very good web hosting outfits that offer excellent
service, pricing and include the cost of your domain in their rates.
They ALL offer low rates for the first block of service and then it goes
up. I am currently using www.greengeeks.com and find them far superior
to three other outfits I've used in the past.
Beware of Globat.com or powweb.com. Both owned by the same parent
company and have unreliable service (IMHO) and jack up their rates after
the initial period - by a lot. They claim you will be paying the "going
rate" after your initial period and I'd be fine with that if it were
true. However, every time I was up for renewal, I'd look at their
current offer where they would say you pay X now but 1.8X when you renew
and the renewal rate they wanted to charge me was more like 2.3X.
I'd complain and they would always adjust it downward to what it should
be. I got tired of their games and the clogs in their mail servers
where email sent from my account might not appear elsewhere for anywhere
from 1 hour to 22 hours and vice versa. Sent them packing and now all
Started building business websites with notepad in the early 90's. Fast
forward 25 years and in the past two months have re-vamped my wife's
501(c)(3) business website using SquareSpace:
> how not to drive your potential readers away in 5 seconds, etc...
> those are the hard parts. It will also be the expensive part, but
> well worth it.
Trooth, it is indeed much easier these days, and relatively inexpensive.
So far this site has been responsible for increasing her summer music
camp season, as well as the kid's concerts and theater attendance about
And the ability for clients to signup for classes and make donations
online, all without the hassle of site security for commerce/credit
cards etc., has been a surprise to her.
About time to give her an (large) invoice ... ;)
On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 7:27:51 PM UTC-4, Swingman wrote:
On the witr website "you" (the site owner) say:
"All transactions are secure and encrypted, and we never store your
credit card information. Payments are processed through Stripe.
I can tell that "you", the site owner, are talking to "me", the person
about to enter a bunch of personal and financial information.
first line reads:
"Welcome to Stripe!
Stripe (“we”, “us” or “our”
) developed this service to make it easy for
you to accept payments online so you can focus on your own product or
OK, so they are not talking to *me*, they are talking to the site owner
who is using their services. What about me? What are the privacy rights
and expectations of the visitor to a site that uses the Stripe services?
but the sections that I did scan sure seem to be addressing the entity
that has the account with them, not the person entering personal informatio
on the account owner's website; information that is going to get passed
through to Stripe.
Careful...have you run up any debt that she might want to recoup? ;-)
Nope, nowhere _on the witr website_ do you see those words above. Here
is what is actually said, snipped for brvity:
"Alternately, the Donate Button ..snip.. will allow you to make a
convenient, simple, secure, and encrypted online donation via credit
card (no data is stored on our servers)."
Which is the factual and actual truth.
Take a look at the change in address bar when you click on the Donate
button at the bottom of the Donate page ... you are no longer on the
website, governed by "http"; but instead have been immediately directed,
via an "https" connection, to a secure, third party server.
But, as clearly indicated in words and practice, information entered not
on the website, but instead via secure connection to a third party website.
> What about me? What are the privacy rights and expectations of the
> visitor to a site that uses the Stripe services?
Simple ... you have a problem trusting that a secure website due to
their TOS, don't pull the trigger, send in a check. :)
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