A couple weeks back I asked for and received several opinions on Grizzly 14"
I was just about sold on their 14" model G0555.
I stopped down the local Rockler store and the have the Delta 14" (28-206)
for about $25
more than the Grizzly. However, the Delta doesn't include a fence, but,
Grizzly charges ~60
for shipping, plus being home, with a friend, to unload from the delivery
truck it may be
That all said, does anyone have any experiences with this Delta bs.
I've read some reviews where vibration was a problem, while others had no
Just try'n to get the best saw for the bucks I have to spend on one.
ThankX again all,
You'll be better off with the Delta. The fence is no big deal, you
can easily make one, and you may not use a fence too often anyway
especially if you have a table saw. JMO, all band saws are a PITA to
tune up, and the Delta is no exception. If you can, splurge on a
goose neck lamp.
As one who has the Griz G0555 and likes it very much (once I got rid of the
roller bearing guides and replaced them with blocks), I would opt for the
Delta in your situation. You get a year longer warranty but the biggest
thing for me would be the system of adjusting the lower guides which all can
be done from in front of the saw. The lower guides on the Griz work fine
but they are like the Jet and you have to do it from behind them. That
little bit of money dif for the extra warranty and ease of adjustment is a
no-brainer in my book.
I've had the Delta for about 3 years now, perfectly happy with it. Like
all BS, it benefitted from a set of cool blocke for guides, better dust
collection, and I'm thinking about beefing up the blade tension spring.
I got the riser kit when I bought it, and have used it to resaw 8 and
10 inch boards. Still don't have a fence, just clamp a board to the
table when I need one. Made a point fence for resawing. See Rogowski's
(sp?) book on bandsaws for a lot of good tips.
I've had the Griz G1148 since 2000 and it continues to work perfectly.
The G0555 looks like a great machine so I say forget the Delta!
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size=2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT size=2>>A couple weeks back I asked for and
received several opinions on Grizzly 14"<BR>> bandsaws.<BR>> I was just
about sold on their 14" model G0555.<BR>> <BR>> Until today.<BR>>
<BR>> I stopped down the local Rockler store and the have the Delta 14" (28-206)<BR>> for about $25<BR>> more than the Grizzly. However, the
Delta doesn't include a fence, but,<BR>> Grizzly charges ~60<BR>> for
shipping, plus being home, with a friend, to unload from the delivery<BR>>
truck it may be<BR>> another problem.<BR>> <BR>> That all said, does
anyone have any experiences with this Delta bs.<BR>> I've read some reviews
where vibration was a problem, while others had no<BR>> complaints.<BR>>
<BR>> Just try'n to get the best saw for the bucks I have to spend on one.<BR>> <BR>> ThankX again all,<BR>> <BR>> Ron<BR>>
I just bought a 28-206 last November. As I have noticed through my own
experience and that of others here on the 'Wreck, Delta quality for any
given machine is usually either pretty good or particularly atrocious,
no rhyme or reason. It's like you get either the machine they built at
5:45PM the day before a holiday or the one they built the day the
Quality Assurance inspectors came through. So, for any given Delta
machine, it's going to be (1) a very good value and give you years of
service or (2) the thing that makes you take up drinking and cursing
like a sailor if you don't already.
That being said, the Delta machines I have were all pretty much okay
when I got them. Except for the 28-206. Here's a list of the
manufacturing defects I had on mine:
* Vibrated like diesel - Caused by an out-of-balance upper wheel, an
arguably out-of-balance lower wheel, and a misalignment between the
motor and wheel pulleys adjusted to their maximum travels.
* Loose lower guide bracket - Caused by an undersized steel rail, a
known problem Delta acknowledged.
* Misaligned doors - The lower door in particular as it was wont to pop
open at whim.
* A particularly nasty rattle between the table and the 90-deg stop
I should also note that I bought the 28-206 knowing Delta's
inconsistent quality problems, and I spent an inordinate amount of time
puting the machine together and getting every
measurement/alignment/setting as close to perfect as I could manage
with the way it was built. (It took me at least four or five hours to
get it all together out of the box.) In spite of that effort, I
discovered all the problems listed above.
I should also note that Delta's Customer Service department did a
stellar job helping me identify the problems and either recommending a
solution or getting replacement parts out quickly. I received all the
replacement parts in 2-3 days with the exception of the upper wheel
which was backordered for two months. I just recieved it this week.
I'll post more when I get a chance to put the new parts on.
The one thing I have noticed that is a weakness in design is the
flexibility of the top of the enclosed stand. American Woodworker
noted this in their review of the 28-206. When I was doing my research
on this band saw I read a post here about a guy who reinforced the top
with angle iron underneath. That's probably the best solution for the
problem, but I don't want to go running down that road until I've
gotten everything else normalized first to see if needs improving.
Hope all that helps.
Not exactly a copy, as much as a model not made
in USA. The 28-206 was introduced to handle the
Home Center crowd due to the "price point".
It's not a bad saw, just not the same as it's
The "original" 14" Delta bandsaw is the bandsaw
that almost all modern bandsaws is based upon.
It remains the "gold standard" in bandsaws.
The 28-206 comes in at around $549...
**** Woodworker Supply 1/24/05 ****
The 28-848 comes in at around $848...
The X-5 (475) is, itself, a "copy" and certainly not the "gold standard" ...
and a "price point" re-engineered one to boot.
Todd Stock wrote an interesting post back a year or so ago about the
<Todd Stock post, 02/03>
You did get the best of the 14" saws, but in adding power to the package,
Delta made a cost engineering change that moved them in the direction of the
The problem with the new Delta 1.5 hp is that they upp'd the motor speed
from 1750 to 3450 (to keep the price point for the motor and drive train
identical to the old 28-299) and replaced the excellent balanced steel and
iron pulleys that were supplied with the old 3/4 and 1 hp saws with the
same crappy cast alloy sheaves that the Jets and other imports are using.
This drive train vibe is more noticeable than on the imports because speed
is doubled and power is higher on the new Deltas.
Junk the alloy sheave (the motor is likely a machined steel sheave and is
probably OK) and invest in a cast iron, balanced Browning sheave for the
driven shaft - about $28 from MSC. Make sure you get the proper bore (3/4")
and correct 4L pitch diameter (NOT the same as the outside
Also - swap to a link belt. These are the fixes that Iturra recommends for
the Jet and other imports, and appears to be necessary for the new Delta
1.5 hp as well.
I hope Delta gets enough complaints to change the drivetrain back to a
balanced system - just one of the many things that justified a higher
price tag for the saw."
If you want a good bandsaw, keep your money in
your pocket and start looking for a 14" Delta
made prior to 1975 or so...(they are available)
A very nice saw is the 28-200 which had/has a
enclosed base BUT does not have the swing doors.
Not a show stopper, but still a pain in the wazoo.
The older saws almost always had much slower and
smaller motors but that presents very few problems.
I would spout off about other things but the
Iturra folks down in Jacksonville,FL. publish a
very nice catalog with a very good write up on
14" bandsaws and why the Delta is far superior to
any others(imports).(call for catalog)
The higher end Powermatic is still considered an
excellent bandsaw in the 14" class.
I purchased the delta 14" saw two years ago, and it is a great machine. My
only complaint is that the dust collection, which has since been redesigned.
I have done resawing, intricate cutting and ripping on the saw without any
troubles. If I had it to do over, I would do exactly the same thing.
Ron, if you like, Delta shipped my saw with two rip fence kits. Neither
Delta nor the distributor I purchased it through wanted the extra returned.
I'd be happy to unload the fence for a song just to get it out of my shop.
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