Coped Panel Doors

Aside from the typical widths of styles and rails used for cabinet doors, is there any width limit beyond which the coped glue joint will crack when the rail expands? Is this any better with mortice and tenon frames? How do they make the wide rails used in passage and entrance doors stay put?

Thanks very much.

TLE

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I don't if there is a "limit", but there are no promises when using wood.

I have seen brand new factory doors split.

You don't know how well the wood was dried, you don't know when the door was finished and you don't know if the glue was any good.

M&T will probably last a while longer but if there are any of the above problems, it will fail.

The entry way doors you mention are often dowelled, but some are using a "cope joint" with a M&T just for good measure.

I have seen "many" joint seperations in entry way doors, but the sooner the door is finished, the better the door will last.

The entry door guys are using VERY carefully dried material to build with. This is often not the case with the weekend warriors.

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I have never seen that happen. PVA glue allows some creeping and I have seen loads of cabinet doors where the rail has just shrunk a bit, you can feel or see the movement along the top and bottom of the door.

Is this any better with mortice and tenon

In this part of the world traditionally a double tenon would be used on a wide rail. That is one tenon above the other, in line. Traditionally the mortice and tenon would not necessarily have been glued but either pegged or wedged and if it was glued the traditional glues were a bit crap.

Tim w

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I have never seen that happen. PVA glue allows some creeping and I have seen loads of cabinet doors where the rail has just shrunk a bit, you can feel or see the movement along the top and bottom of the door.

Is this any better with mortice and tenon

In this part of the world traditionally a double tenon would always be used on a wide rail. That is one tenon above the other, in line. Traditionally the mortice and tenon would not necessarily have been glued but either pegged or wedged and if it was glued the traditional glues were a bit crap.

Tim w

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Typically if you apply a finish to all the surfaces there should not be enough movement to be of any worry. I have never really worried about that and have never had a failure, in 30 years.

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