Want to do a project tomorrow, exterior use, exposed to water, possibly lots at times but not submerged. Is there a recommended brand/type that any of you have used and can confirm will work? I will be using screws too, just want the extra strength.
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3M5200.Once it sets up, screws become redundant.
Lew
One of the many variations of liquid nails, depending on the materials to be glued.
Until the adhesive fails.
ots at times but not submerged. Is there a recommended brand/type that any = of you have used and can confirm will work? I will be using screws too, jus= t want the extra strength. -- Froz... The system will be down for 10 days f= or preventive maintenance.
I did some testing of various adhesives for some stone to wood products at = one point. Liquid Nails was the winner by far over all similar products I f= ound at big box store. Been using it for all sorts of stuff for years. Neve= r had a failure.
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Lew
You have obviously never seen it fail.
Is this wood-to-wood?
If the adhesive will be subject to weather, lots of silicones and exterior caulks are suitable. If it's for panel-to-stud connection, and the panel protects from weather, many of the 'liquid nails' products are just fine. The only problem, is that a moist chunk of wood will stretch, and the glue won't (so you want a weak glue, that's kinda stretchy).
As a sealer, maybe....
If it's structural though?
I've had Liquid Nail and 5200 both fail.
I'm a hard core epoxy guy. There are others, but West System was MADE for wood.
PL Premium polyurethane is good stuff for those conditions. I've even used it on small boats for joints that are under water and it has held up fine. (I'm talking about a boat that is removed from the water when not being used, not one that stays in the water...)
Life happened, didn't get to it the other day, and it rained all day today. I may try tomorrow, no sign of 3M adhesives in HD or Rona here, I'm in Canada. Plenty of PL products or DAP adhesives, it is straight wood to wood, pressure treated.
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5200 is available from any marine chandlery.BTW, HD carries 5200 stateside.
That info and $1 will get you a cup of coffee in a low price joint. .
Lew
:20 PM UTC-7, FrozenNorth wrote: >> Want to do a project tomorrow, exterior= use, exposed to water, possibly >> >> lots at times but not submerged. > >= Is this wood-to-wood? > > If the adhesive will be subject to weather, lots= of silicones and exterior > caulks are suitable. If it's for panel-to-stud= connection, and the panel > protects from weather, many of the 'liquid nai= ls' products are just fine. > The only problem, is that a moist chunk of wo= od will stretch, and the > glue won't (so you want a weak glue, that's kind= a stretchy). As a sealer, maybe.... If it's structural though? I've had Liq= uid Nail and 5200 both fail. I'm a hard core epoxy guy. There are others, b= ut West System was MADE for wood.
Yeah, probably right. Epoxy, yes but maybe expensive\difficult for this app= lication but I always have T11 or (whatever the number is) on hand and love= it.
PM UTC-7, FrozenNorth wrote:>> Want to do a project tomorrow, exterior use, exposed to water, possibly>> >> lots at times but not submerged.> > Is this wood-to-wood?> > If the adhesive will be subject to weather, lots of silicones and exterior> caulks are suitable. If it's for panel-to-stud connection, and the panel> protects from weather, many of the 'liquid nails' products are just fine.> The only problem, is that a moist chunk of wood will stretch, and the> glue won't (so you want a weak glue, that's kinda stretchy). As a sealer, maybe.... If it's structural though? I've had Liquid Nail and 5200 both fail. I'm a hard core epoxy guy. There are others, but West System was MADE for wood.
application but I always have T11 or (whatever the number is) on hand and love it.
T-88?
mt favorite too.
8, 2012 4:10:32 PM UTC-7, Richard wrote: >> On 9/18/2012 4:42 PM, whit3rd w= rote:> On Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:26:20 PM UTC-7, FrozenNorth wrote:>>= Want to do a project tomorrow, exterior use, exposed to water, possibly>> =
sive will be subject to weather, lots of silicones and exterior> caulks are= suitable. If it's for panel-to-stud connection, and the panel> protects fr= om weather, many of the 'liquid nails' products are just fine.> The only pr= oblem, is that a moist chunk of wood will stretch, and the> glue won't (so = you want a weak glue, that's kinda stretchy). As a sealer, maybe.... If it'= s structural though? I've had Liquid Nail and 5200 both fail. I'm a hard co= re epoxy guy. There are others, but West System was MADE for wood. > > Yeah= , probably right. Epoxy, yes but maybe expensive\difficult for this applica= tion but I always have T11 or (whatever the number is) on hand and love it.= T-88? mt favorite too.
Bingo!
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