Black & Darker decides Festool has had enough action

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know this has been discussed, but I actually saw one back at a local woodworking show this month.

It looked pretty neat, but looks can be deceiving.

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Pat Barber
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There is a comparison on the Festool user group site:

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Dave - Parkville, MD

That is a very interesting write up...

That guy actually liked the B&D.

Dave - Parkville, MD wrote:

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Pat Barber

It does look nice. I notice that it will work with both corded and cordless saws. I wonder how well a battery operated saw do these kinds of cuts and how long they would last.

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Lee Michaels

There is a comparison on the Festool user group site:

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**********************************************8Good review! Nothing like a real person doing an actual comparison in his own shop!

You think that the magazines could learn something from that?

Naaahh...

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Festool has a whole family of these types of tools. I wonder if Dewalt is just going to come out with one or two products like this, or a whole family.

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Lee Michaels

Makita also has a plunge saw and guide system.

Chris

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Chris Friesen

The things seem to be fairly commonplace in the EU--Hilti has one but Home Despot didn't stock it when they were carrying Hilti (the local store no longer has any Hilti on display) and the track seems to be standardized.

Now what I think would be cool would be a nice little hinged adapter that you put on a standard circular saw that lets it run on the track and plunge on the hinge. Not going to be as nice as a purpose made plunge saw but should do most of what one does and beats paying a plunge-saw price.

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J. Clarke

Well, I assume a Domino "look a like" carbon copy ain't too far out in the future. You have to know that B&D is watching these groups and others for conversation about things like Domino. A very pricey solution and I have to assume, very profitable.

When old Tom on T.O.H. did his free demo of Festool a couple years back, you have to know that B&D caught that show.

Lee Michaels wrote:

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Pat Barber

"J. Clarke" wrote

Sounds like a good idea for a product. They make bases for both circular saws and routers to run on tracks. It doesn't seem like that much of a jump to a product like you are describing.

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Lee Michaels

Apparently it will not cut a 2x4 in to 2 pieces.

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Leon

How do you figure that? Depth of cut is a bit over 2" when using the track. Even when beveled at 45 degrees it can still do better than 1.5", so a 2x4 should be no problem.

Chris

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Chris Friesen

Leon,

If you are referring to the depth of cut, the DeWalt sites says it will cut 2 1/8" hardwood. I guess your correct on the 2x4 since that is not hardwood.

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Dave - Parkville, MD

Description says 2 1/8 depth of cut. Assuming that's square/90° it wouldn't have any problems with a 2x4 nominal 1.5x3.5 actual. But it would be real close at 45°. Calculated cut depth = 1.503

Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA

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Tom Veatch

My mistake Tom, You are absolutely correct. What was I thinking?

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Leon

Don't take it too hard, Leon. It wasn't you... it was the Systainer talking!

Juuuuuusst kidding....

(still snickering, though!)

Robert

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nailshooter41

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