Air Conditioned Shop?

Houston. Same, same. Sam's. Honkin' BIG fan ... or three. That's the way it must be.

(Actually, it if doesn't stop raining soon, I'm more worried about high water in the shop than heat.)

... and there it goes again. :(

It's always something ...

I saw the biggest bug I've _EVER_ seen in MS.

Back in my sound guy daze, I was working for one night in Jackson, MS. The grand opening of the North-something mall, with Beatlemania. After the show, we went to some bar where people could drive boats right in. I could just imagine people drowning in the place and not being found until the next morning.

There was a beetle the size of a 33 1/3 record or Frisbee (At least it looked that big to ME!) walking across the parking lot at us. I ran the other way!

For the other weird stories, there was a bar near a Christian college in Rock Hill, SC (my daddy makes me go here...), called Plum Crazy, the Art Deco District of Miami, SUNY Corning, or Front Street in Bermuda...

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Box fan in a window, ceiling fan, lots of shade trees, I get by fine.

Wish you could send that rain here. Severe drought. Only three rains since 20th of May, but one of them this morning. Can't figure out where the humidity is coming from. And the mosquitos.

Going to break the drought though. Break ground on the shop expansion. When I poured the slab for the original shop, Dec. '90 it rained every weekend day until April. I got so frustrated, I framed it one weekend in the rain.

Farmers around here will thank me.

Frank

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SUNY Corning

Please explain. I hope you don't mean Corning,NY

Allen

Eh. When it's zero degrees (32 below freezing), I can still work in my garage pretty well. But sweltering in it on a 105-degree day (and hotter in the garage) is too much for me!

steve

Old maxim: You can always put on enough to stay warm but can never take off enough to keep cool!

OTOH, if you have a shop with adequate heat and cooling... Nirvana!

Yep ... that's _exactly_ why it's raining here. I've been waiting to pour a foundation on a new housing start for three weeks! The rain will just not let up.

When you are married to a nice southern girl, you NEED air conditioning.

Sure it wasn't one of our famous flying tree roaches. They're impressive.

There are two types of people in Mississippi, particularly Jackson and south. Those that admit they have roaches in their house, and those that lie about it.

Frank

Sure!

Years back, I did some shows there.

One of the memorable trips through Corning that can be shared in a public forum happened during a "Celebration Weekend".

The Dean's wife decided to have an "interpretive" theatre directly under the gym where I was hired to work. I can't remember who the band was, possibly the Ramones, Squeeze, Talking Heads, or The Bosstones. Anyhow... we had 60-70,000 watts on the PA, including Servodrive subwoofers, and a packed, enthusiastic house of maybe

I then spent the entire 90 minute set arguing with the Dean, and then his porky wife, while trying to mix. We argued over the fact that it was now SNOWING chunks of suspended ceiling material on the theatre, the gel frames were falling out of the lights, and the actors couldn't be heard. Also, the perfectly rectangular room below us resonated severely ~ 40 Hz, so every time the band held certain notes, the room would become unbearable. He wanted to stop the show so the 10 people in the room (including his uber-po'd wife ) below could put on their 2-hour performance.

I also got a ridiculous speeding ticket in Alfred, and saw a drunken Sasquatch kick down all the stalls in a hillbilly bar.

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I've flown smaller radio control airplanes.

That thing freaked me out!

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You may not be able to move, but you can get warm

TMI!!! TMI!!!

Wayne

When I was in New Orleans once many many years ago, I saw some guys skateboarding down the sidewalk. As they got closer I saw that they weren't skateboarding at all. They were just riding the backs of cockroaches.

Wayne

| To all of in an air-conditioned shop: YOU SUCK!!! | | Sweaty in High Point.

Going as fast as I can on a completely solar-powered air conditioner - perhaps by next summer or the summer after...

Wish me luck! (It's sweaty here in Iowa, too.)

-- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA

Steve.. Because my shop is indoors in a new house, it probably won't help you much, but here goes..

Good part:

Because my wife is a LOT smarter than I am, we (ok, she) decided that instead of the shop being in a detached garage, it would be a large room IN the house...

The house is built of "Dura Wall", which is sort of like cinder block but made of cement and foam, and in larger blocks.. it's a very good insulation.. The ceiling is layered, from the top down, with cement, foam (6"), cement and foam.. The windows and door glass are double pane and the mini splits (4 total) were installed by the builder and Trane..

Not so good part:

Because part of why we moved to Baja is the Sea of Cortez, the shop has three 5' x 4' windows and a set of multi-pane french doors, with 2 windows facing the sea.. (East) What we didn't factor in was the morning sun.... The West side of the house has few windows and a veranda to for shade, because we did figure that the afternoon sun would be very hot.. I've had to put roll down plastic shades (the kind like they tint car windows with) on the windows and make sure that I put them down by 6 am or the shop gets VERY warm...

Mexican contractors trying to build gringo style houses seem to have a lot of trouble getting things like door and window opening square and getting a good fit for the aluminum windows... lots of gaps and binds and tons of silicon, their solution to a loose fit... heat and wind DOES get in...

Hope something in there helped..

mac

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I've had that problem, Les...

The AC unit doesn't shut of, though, the fan stays on, which helps a bit..

On a few very wet days, I've used the DRY setting, but I understand that it doubles the electricity usage because you're running both the heat and AC?

Works very well, though...

BTW: water is, of course, rationed here, so I have a gallon pail under the drain pipe outside the shop.. Set at 30 C, it fills the pail about once an hour and that waters most of the plants and keeps the wife's fountain full..

mac

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Yep... if you're bending wood and don't have a steam chamber...

mac

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Frank... Our contractor was going to put 2 ceiling fans in the shop, but I went for more ceiling outlets instead... My feeling was that the ceiling fans would blow dust and crap all over the shop and hamper the flow of the jet filter..

Do you run it in reverse to avoid that, or what?

mac

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No I run it in forward and it (dust blowing) hasn't been a problem. My shop has a vaulted ceiling with a four foot wide flat at the top.

I was worried about the same thing, but when remodeling left me with one surplus ceiling fan I decided to put it up. I prewired the boxes in the ceiling when I built the shop, anticipating a couple of air cleaners. Ended up with one air cleaner and the ceiling fan. If they fight each other I haven't noticed it. The air cleaner pre-filter seems to load up just as fast as it did without the ceiling fan.

Frank