4/4 lumber is now less that 3/4" thick. Grrr

Are you talking softwood like pine or fir? Calling it "lumber" would tend to indicate that but I can't see using either for carving. But I buy hardwood frequently and the 4/4 is always at least 13/16' and more often 7/8" or more. Maybe you're looking in the wrong place.

Seriously. If that local yard has figured out how to sell less wood than is in a 1x and call it 4/4, and figured out a way to make people buy it, they're onto something!

Your local yard if F'ed up. And or are you sure you did not buy 3/4?

I would agree for S2S but 4/4 has always been 3/4" in S4S lumber.

Find another yard or a hardwood dealer. Even 5/4 is barely 15/16 from a lo= t of sources now. I have a couple of sources that provide 5/4 that is actu= ally in the 1" to 1-1/8" range and they will cut and plane to any thickness= I want as long as I buy 100bf or more. Get away from the commercial store= s and find the guys who want to sell and serve.

But I do share your pain. I tried to buy some redwood a few weeks ago for = patio furniture. In Kansas it is hard to even find redwood and I ended up = with some of the 11/16 stock (mainly for decking). Not the best deal but t= hat is what you are stick with on redwood in KS. Hardwoods are a very diff= erent story.

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lot of sources now. I have a couple of sources that provide 5/4 that is ac= tually in the 1" to 1-1/8" range and they will cut and plane to a= ny thickness I want as long as I buy 100bf or more. Get away from the comm= ercial stores and find the guys who want to sell and serve.

r patio furniture. In Kansas it is hard to even find redwood and I ended u= p with some of the 11/16 stock (mainly for decking). Not the best deal but= that is what you are stick with on redwood in KS. Hardwoods are a very di= fferent story.

I should have noted - most local mills will provide rough sawn hardwood tha= t is at or even thicker than the nominal dimension. It has to be planed bu= t I pick my own thickness. I bought a 17" x 45" chunk of "8/4" walnut from= a guy a few months ago that is actually 2-3/8" thick. Gonna make a fat li= ttle rocking horse.

Hardwood lumber (and sheet goods) is simply one of those materials that you always need to verify dimensions before you buy.

It's always been that way, and it's best to assume that it always will be.

And, if you don't plan on dimensioning it yourself, you better buy enough to finish that project, plus 20%.

I would agree for S2S but 4/4 has always been 3/4" in S4S lumber.

For some definition of "always"... :)

_WAY_ back framing lumber was nominally 13/16--the 3/4--1-1/2 came into being sometime in like the '50s w/ the advent of so much more "real"

Now we've progressed to the point where we're having to shim again or buy undersized bits because the sheet goods have been cheapened down a

Progress, indeed! :(

It is hard to tell what the OP means by "lumber" here, specifically. It surely wouldn't surprise if some mill or mills has/have gone to something more like the ply thickness for one-by stuff. After all, a half-gallon ice cream carton is now 3-qts. :(

I'd not expect hardwoods to be that short, no...

You are talking about construction lumber which is typically not sold as

And I don't recall in recent history say in the last 30 years sheet goods being sold as actual stated thickness although I have recently purchased plywood that was actually 3/4" and 1/4" thick. Stuff looked super fat. ;~)

Actually a half gallon of ice cream is still a half gallon. I am not sure I would be displeased with ice cream being sold as 1/2 gallon actually having 3 quarts. Perhaps you meant 3 pints.

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Well, yes, but since when has 4/4 been only *eleven* sixteenths thick??

I will buy all those 3 quart, 1/2 gallon ice cream cartons you can get your hands on. ;0>

Dibs on all the straight chocolate (or mint'n'chip)! You can have

-all- the rest.

He undoubtedly meant pints. The new cartons are 48 ounces (v. 64) any more. I like the No Sugar Added types, too. (I ache less.)

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Buy rough. I just surfaced roughly 100 board feet of 4/4. The boards are now 15/16, some a bit under but more than 7/8, .

Wrong little pinkie there... "p", "q" who cares... :)

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If you're lysdexic it doesn't matter. ;-)

yea, I kinda skimmed that part, and that's cheatin' a bit more, but just by a 1/16th

It's cheating by an eighth. A very important eighth.

In reality depending on where you are this creates some oportunities. I'm in Washinton state so there is a fair amount available. It's convenient to pick up kiln dried lumber, but a tree guy I do stuff for had 5-6' diameter logs that he had resawn and kiln dried for flooring. So this could create oportunites for smaller vendors to come in and provide product.

Mike M