1/2" CDX

It wasn't too long ago I bought 1/2" CDX for ~$15 a sheet. I have a nice stock pile of 1/2".... some 5/8" CDX and 5/8" T1-11, also.

Went to get more 1/2" sheets, today, for boarding up my brother's windows, in the Lake Charles area. Price at Doug Ashy is $32 a sheet, Home Depot is $30 a sheet, Lowes is $29 a sheet.

Our only consolation is doing some hoodoo, maybe send Laura Leon's way, since he and folks that way seem to have an affinity for storms and high water.

Sonny

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So glad the bulk of my home renovation is done! It would be tough to start the task now... Frustrating delays for one thing. Cost for another.

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John Grossbohlin

If you are interested in more details regarding the change in prices, the following video lays out a pretty detailed analysis (in short, the lumber companies thought demand was going to go down and produced less, and demand went up instead):

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Bill

As did the greed.

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Hawk

That too. : )

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Bill

Along with a proportionally inverse move in the quality.

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DerbyDad03

prices.

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Scott Lurndal

Thank you Sonny, NO THANK YOU. It's "your storm". But in hind site it appears that the storm surge was pretty much a non event. We heard it would be 20 feet deep near Lake Charles. We watched a local reporter from Houston showing what was going on in Vinton this morning. She was showing the storm serge by standing in a rain filled ditch. No water in the streets. The media gives Saturday Night Live a run for its money.

Hope your brother and all came through with out too much anguish.

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Leon

The 20' storm surge prediction was from the National Weather Service/NOAA, who said the "worst case" storm surge could reach 20'.

You can't blame the media for reporting the facts.

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Scott Lurndal

Actually I was not blaming the NWS and I agreed that 20" would be bad.

What I said was that the storm surge was a non event and the local Houston reporter was trying to make it look like the storm surge actually happened. She demonstrated this by showing that when she appeared standing in a rain filled ditch the water was up to her knees. The street beside the ditch and the grass in front of the ditch had no standing water.

So the media/local news person from Houston, was grossly trying to distort the facts into something that did not actually happen where she was, west of Lake Charles. Fake news.

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Leon

The reporter was phony, not the storm surge. If she/her crew drove from Houston and plopped her a$$ in Vinton, of all places, then she totally missed the boat. If the storm's eye was 10-15 miles more west, both Lake Charles and Beaumont/Port Arthur would have seen much more surge via flowing into/from Sabine Pass and Calcasieu Lake. Lake Charles is 15' above sea level, Beaumont 16', Port Arthur 7'.

Though the surge didn't reach 20', it did reach 15' south of Lake Charles and eastward. La's whole coast is so low, sea level marshland, the surge reached I-10 in some areas, 30 miles inland.... same in Beaumont. Jennings, La., 26' above sea level and ~50 miles inland, had salt water flowing up the Mermentau River, there.

Brother's house is safe & secure. Thanks. He has large live oak limbs broken and lots smaller others scattered everywhere. No trees down or uprooted, though.

Western relatives gathered at here. We had a nice hurricane party. One half hour long power outage about 2:30 AM. We barely survived, though, my young brother's horrible coffee this morning.

Sonny

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Sonny

Click on the second video with a guy climbing around on his car.

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Leon

Well, I would give her a second opinion. She likely doesn't know any better, in that, she used the wrong terminology. That water is more likely standing rain water, flooding capacity. It hasn't drained because the surge water is keeping it from draining normally. Even at that time of day, though the eye of the hurricane is well north, circulating winds are still coming in from the Gulf, from off shore, still pushing Gulf water onto the farther east Louisiana coast. In all those areas the surge (nor the rain water) won't totally recede for a few days, a week in some areas. She not so wrong, but I think she just used the wrong term at the moment.

Sonny

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Sonny

Well Texans do have a tendancy towards exageration :-)

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Scott Lurndal

Nooooooo? ;!)

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Leon

Well maybe. ;~) I think it is the media syndrome of not yet knowing how to stop talking and think about what you are saying before blurting it out. Heck the main guy in charge of weather at the particular station, Frank Billingsley, indicated that September 1 will be the first meteorological say of "Summer". Actually it is the first meteorological day of Fall.

That water is more likely standing rain water, flooding capacity.

Yes!

It hasn't drained because the surge water is keeping it from draining normally.

We saw images from Cameron and the streets were clear of water and hardly any water was in the ditches. I suspect that Vinton simply got a lot of rain and the ditches are still full, storm serge or not. Houston ditches stay quite full for days after a decent rain.

Even at that time of day, though the eye of the hurricane is well north, circulating winds are still coming in from the Gulf, from off shore, still pushing Gulf water onto the farther east Louisiana coast. In all those areas the surge (nor the rain water) won't totally recede for a few days, a week in some areas. She not so wrong, but I think she just used the wrong term at the moment.

You are sooo forgiving. ;~)

Anyway. Glad to hear that y'all came through OK. I have been through 5 bad hurricanes, 6 if you count Harvey 3 years ago to the day. But that was mostly 50 inches of rain in 3 days and countless tropical storms that caused massive flooding for weeks. It is not for the faint of heart.

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Leon

FWIW...earlier today I saw a scroll on the bottom of my TV that some areas experienced a record setting storm surge of 17'. I didn't have time to stop and watch the report, so I don't have any details.

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DerbyDad03

On Friday, August 28, 2020 at 12:45:57 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:

Maybe this will help with understanding some things, put things in perspective.

Cameron is not so much a small town or city. It is a small region right at the coast, below Lake Charles.... and the parish (county) is Cameron Parish. It's a "jumping off" point for offshore workers, pumping stations, other oil field related settings. And folks do have homes and camps along the coast, also. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cameron,+LA/@29.8128143,-93.4211702,11z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x863c699e63504419:0x440f21d7f69e52d8!8m2!3d29.7977212!4d-93.3251535 Here's US Coast Guard fly-over video. The straight "lines" of land are levees, not simple ditch confines. There are man made levees along the coast to keep surges at bay and/or help prevent coastal erosion. The levee at Holly Beach is 1/2 mile inland. Yes, there is somewhat high ground there, but most was man-made high land. Some of this high land is from the creating/digging of the intercoastal waterway, oil field related and other dredging. Almost all significant waterways are periodically dredged for shipping, barge traffic and other boating. The coastal levees have periodic gaps to allow water to flow back to the Gulf, when need be.

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Why does it show standing homes in the US Coast Guard video? Because it's mandated that homes, camps, etc. be built on stilts.
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There may not have been a 20' surge, but there was one of significance. Pic #14 in this link is Hwy 3147 (posted 15 hours after Laura's landfall). If I'm not mistaken, Hwy was built on a levee. Note the "grass" growing on the sides of the highway. That grass is Roseau Cane.... it's 12' tall.
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Now go back and view the US Coast Guard videos with some of that Roseau cane in mind. Also, the marsh has marsh grass, floating thick mats of marsh grass, 2' - 5' tall. You can mostly walk on the mats, they are so thick, but you also sink a bit, like walking on a spongy lawn. You can also often punch through the mats and sink over your head in places. Not all of that "land" in the videos is solid land.... same for most of the Louisiana's coast, as well as the continuing coastal areas to Galveston, Tx. I've never been beyond League City's/Galveston's coast, westward, but I assume it's nearly the same terrain for some distance.

Sonny

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Sonny

One other thing to consider. A 20 foot storm serge might not reach an area 22 feet above sea level. Again the locals lead us to believe that the surge would be 20 feet all the way to Lake Jackson.

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Leon

Let's try the Hwy 3147 link again, see pic #14.

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Sonny

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