Will she ever learn?

Following on from my other post about her using our railway system.
Will she ever learn that the trains and staff that run them in this country are shit?
So I was not surprised when I saw this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-44910639
Although why this is in the BBC's Norfolk section is beyond me as neither York or Darlington are near Norfolk.
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On Sunday, 22 July 2018 13:48:47 UTC+1, ARW wrote:

They aren't, and a lot of effort goes into the Travel Assistance system, but it obviously doesn't always work.

She's from Norwich.
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On 22/07/2018 14:11, snipped-for-privacy@gowanhill.com wrote:

Norwich Canada?
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06:11:59 on Sun, 22 Jul 2018, snipped-for-privacy@gowanhill.com remarked:

What particularly doesn't work is:
(a) when people arrive with a buggy that apparently doesn't comply with the Travel Assistance scheme.
It's not a wheelchair, it's not a folding buggy (which like folding bikes are treated as luggage), and it's unlikely it has the necessary permit for a non-folding buggy.
(b) when people are not in the correct carriage [with the wheelchair space]. The platform staff apparently helped *someone* off the train (presumably from the correct carriage) and at that point no doubt thought their job was done.
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Its fragmentation of the railways that is the cause of problems with disabled use of them. Non standard procedures and trains and the lack of communication across companies. Brian
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In the case of East Coast, the problem is the old trains they inherited (built in the 70's/80's). The new fleet is in the wings.
One of the main reasons they are being withdrawn is the lack of provision for wheelchair users.

I'd expect most train companies to have very similar mobility scooter rules.

In both of the cases this lady was involved in, just one company was implicated.
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On 23/07/2018 10:02, Brian Gaff wrote:

It was far worse when BR rolling stock was mostly slam-door. Disabled and buggies had to go in the grotty guards van.
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On 23/07/2018 22:14, Andrew wrote:

In BR days on our local line, many passengers had to stand in the luggage cage in the guards compartment every day - usually so packed that they were in danger of passing out. Even then, the class 108 and 101 DMUs, while old, noisy and rough running were far more reliable and comfortable than the class 142s that replaced them.
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On Monday, 23 July 2018 22:14:43 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:

The rest of the train was usually rather grotty too.
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ARW wrote:

"Ms Davis, of Norwich"
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On 22/07/2018 14:22, Andy Burns wrote:

On a train no where near Norwich.
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Still likely to be of interest to those in Norwich who read about the original stupidity tho.
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Because it's not true. I use trains on a regular (but not daily basis, so also a variety of routes) and they're generally fine. Far more likely to arrive at your destination at the said time than going by road.
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On Monday, 23 July 2018 14:29:22 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Far more likely to arrive at all, given the road and rail fatality statistics.
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On 23/07/2018 14:28, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Not if you use Southern or Thameslink since May 20th
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I think you'll find that although there was a lot of chaos initially, the subsequent 'another new timetable' introduced on 15th July is working reasonably well.
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Doesn't make a great deal of difference in my case. As I'm not aiming to catch the 07.30 etc from a country station.
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On 24/07/2018 10:45, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

There's a world of difference between a 15 minute service from Tooting to Waterloo and a rural (and even not-so-rural) service that starts and sometimes finishes a long way from LOndon.
You also have massively subsidised tube, bus and Overground rail alternatives.
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There certainly is, as such a thing doesn't exist.

Think you'll find the subsidy per passenger mile rather less than on many rural lines.
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 01:01:43 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Northern Line.
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