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Why, when we are all digital with subtitles...

Where I deaf I might consider going myself. I suspect it would make the whole experience infinitely more tolerable.

Reply to
Roger Hayter
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Buy a TV with zoom and resize the picture to eliminate the problem.

I know the TNP is too stupid to do so but...

Reply to
dennis

Why do you post to a group where nobody cares what you say?

Reply to
dennis

What makes you think everyone that needs signing is so deaf they can't here the music?

Reply to
dennis

Buy a DVD then! Why do they go given that you can see and hear them at home?

Reply to
dennis

Are you the sort to explain why families that have a blind or partially sighted member should get a free TV license?

Reply to
Fredxx

Get a TV with freeview play and wind back to the program without the signing then.

God some people are too thick to use a TV these days.

Reply to
dennis

Were I deaf, I mean.

Reply to
Roger Hayter

They don't!

Reply to
dennis

I don't say it was the "only" point. I do, sometimes listen to an opera on a CD or, more frequently, on the radio; Radio 3 broadcasts one most Saturday evenings.

There is more to opera than the music, but I can't see how it can be enjoyed without that music, nor can I see how signing would help to restore that missing element.

Reply to
charles

That's easy. The blind used to get a free radio licence. Initially they had a discounted tv licence - the discount being the cost of a radio licence.

Reply to
charles

So that deaf people can't possibly be interested in stage design, i.e. the sets or any other visual element of opera.

Another missing element, if you're deaf is the story which explains the actions of the people on stage. The dramatic element.

So that according to you, not only are deaf people totally oblivious to any visusl element of a stage production, but they can have no possible interest in drama either.

And so unlike the half of any average audience with perfect hearing who don't actually have a clue about what's going on on stage. But just pretend.

In fact I'd be willing to bet that among the deaf people who attend BSL performances, the percentage of poseurs and phoneys who only pretend to like opera, will be far lower than among the audience on a "normal" night.

But then that's just my opinion, of course.

michael adams

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Reply to
michael adams

Apologies, just a 50% discount.

Reply to
Fredxx

That was £1.25 when it was abolished. They get more of a discount now!

Reply to
Max Demian

I cannot speak for the deaf people who go to operas. I don't know why they go. However, they seem to have just as much need to go to the opera as fuckwits like charles and you, if you do indeed attend operas.

You are simply f***ed up in your thinking processes. Too much booze/drugs/self-importance.

Reply to
Richard

Yet more un-joined up thinking. Bravo!

Reply to
Richard

I did see a gilbert and sullivan once, and the pearl fishers, but mostly it was crap.

Stop looking in a mirror.

Once again, you fail to address the issue, and return with an ad hominem.

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

From the man who said "I cannot speak for the deaf people who go to operas. I don't know why they go. However, they seem to have just as much need to go to the opera as fuckwits like charles and you, if you do indeed attend operas. "

Really, who is indulging in un joined up thinking?

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

I just told you that many of these programmes (particularly movies) are NOT repeats of earlier unsigned transmissions.

Moreover, they are not usually available through catch-up, especially those broadcast on the minor channels. Even when they are, catch-up doesn't work for the many people who cannot get fast broadband; or for that matter who cannot afford to buy a new TV.

Others, like you, are too thick to read.

Reply to
Handsome Jack

michael adams posted

I notice you still haven't answered my question about the proportion of deaf people who know international sign language. A small number, I'd guess. Yet you call it "their own language".

But all deaf people can read subtitles, as indeed they do when watching DVDs. And these, being optional, do not inconvenience other people.

False.

Of course it's true. Why would I lie? It's happened to me.

Reply to
Handsome Jack

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