What's wrong with this product?

Aug 10, 2020 60 Replies

That's what we have here in the lounge and one in our bedroom and don't know how we would survive without them (or having to fire up the split system air-con).

On speed two of three I can still sleep easily (noise levels).

If we go somewhere that doesn't have a ceiling fan the air seems so hot, dead and sticky.

Cheers, T i m

Is this one of the ones you fill with water? The better ones also have a dehumidifier. They work well in dry heat, while making the air more humid usually. Then there are the ones with the pipe through an open window, say no more. Brian

Yes, also of course the main reason we tend to suffer in this country is the high humidity we get with the heat, hardly surprising as the UK is surrounded with water of course, but when you sweat you expect the evaporation of the moisture to cool you, but it won't because the air is almost saturated already. The only answer is to alter the pressure or move the air over you to use as much of the little bit left of room for moisture onto your skin. Likewise these devices try to so the same with a wet filter of some kind, As I have noted before, there are some larger units, often seen abroad that also seem to have a dehumidifier of some kind. I'm not saying they are better, but subjectively they are, but you end up with a tank of warm water at the bottom, and a bigger leccy bill. ahem. The most efficient way is the closed loop system with a material that can be evaporated at different temperature, ie an air conditioning unit, basically a large version of a fridge heat pump, where the excess heat is outside not in the room with you. Brian

I *need* one that doesn't require a hole drilled though the property owner's wall (who isn't me)

FSVO needing one at all, that is

I'm, aware that it won't be as good, but what choice do I have?

Other than suffer 32 degrees for however many days it's going to be (predicted to get worse in future years)

That's a much heard argument. The reality is they do feel cooler than just a fan, but not by much.

NT

Fairly easy with a sash windows get a board a good bit wider than pipe; cut its length to the width of the window openinh; cut hole of the pipe

- no need for accuracy when duct tape exists; insert board at bottom and close sash on it.

Other windows I'll leave to the clever'uns ;)

And you don't end up with toxic mould in your static van, as happens in southern USA

Even more people think that opening a window (especially south facing) to drape the hose out of is all it needs. The hot air comes straight back in ....

I spent £4 on a lifesystems survival thermal blanket (90's) and have recently 'found' it and stuck it to the inside of my south- facing aluminium DG patio doors with some of that blue maskingtape. Also a couple of large offcuts of 60mm 'celotex' which means the downstairs has not gone above 27C so far.

Noticibly cool when I come into the house.

An external frame made out of trellis to use it to shade the outside would be even better. Next year I am going to get one of those Australian devices that looks like a sail and fix it to the rear wall with two big expanding bolts and use a couple of tent poles to hold it up away from the wall.

You still can't beat a good cup of tea with semi-skimmed and sit in front of a fan.

Andrew

In Sainburys yesterday I noticed that the sugar-free Siro digestives that cost £1 for 400 grammes, had a mix of old stock and 'new' stock. New stock says 'new recipe', but is only 300 grammes. Still £1.

FFS that is a 25% price increase. I'll just buy the own label dark choc digestives now, also 400 grammes and same price.

I wonder if you'd have been more shocked by a 33% increase

go to the toilet fast biscuits I call them

tim... submitted this idea :

It is too good to be true. They are at best personal coolers. Evaporation of water encouraged by a fan. They will not cool a room down, rather they will fill a room with high humidity from the evaporation.

Kidology. Hang a wet towel in front of a fan and it will work better.

Yes and a proper one will cool a large room down and reduce the humidity in the process.

How uncomfortable it feels is down to both temperature and humidity.

Jim GM4DHJ ... brought next idea :

Try it for free - a wet towell with a fan blowing across it. More effective and a no cost.

'Contains maltitols'.

I only have one or two a day. Doesn't seem to make any difference.

Andrew expressed precisely :

On those days, I draw our vetical blinds in the sunny rooms to the S/W of the house - they make a noticeable difference in preventing the sun landing inside the house, so its much cooler. I also open the loft hatch and window, to allow the heat to rise up and out.

Nope, only to the dew point.

Yeah, except I forgot to pack that on the bicycle when I left a few days before ... along with the fridge and generator. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

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