Ventilation in 1930s houses - wall vents upstairs

Jan 10, 2021 Last reply: 5 years ago 8 Replies

Just a thought about the row of 1930s houses here (and others seen in the past).



They seem to be generally built with air vent bricks near the ceiling in upstairs bedrooms



I assume that this was for ventilation because most rooms had coal fires.



Again I assume that most of these have been blocked up over the years. Certainly no trace of any inside our house. I assume previous owners blocked them up.



All this got me thinking about ventilation. With double glazing and draught proofing round doors and blocking up (or not installing) fireplaces modern houses seem to have minimal ventilation. This is generally a good thing to avoid heat loss, but can be a problem if too much moisture is generated (drying clothes, cooking) with no air exchange.



A classic problem which pops up on here from time to time. Mould on the walls because people refuse to open windows because of lost heat and the cost of heating.



I noticed today that the house is quite dry indoors. RH of about 35%. In the winter we don't leave windows open much, we cook a bit and dry washing indoors. The air outside is dry (cold air can't hold much moisture) so when it comes indoors and heats up you have warm but very dry air. This suggests that we are getting enough outside air in (doors opening and closing mainly) to get outside dry air in and lower the internal RH.



Which brings me back to the start. The original air vents are blocked up. The open fires have been taken out (along with the chimneys) or blocked up. There is an air inlet by the wood burner but that is more or less it. Which makes me wonder where the outside air is getting in.



We do have bathroom fans to take steam from the showers out. We do use an extractor fan over the cooker which vents outside. So we shouldn't be waterlogged. Just wondering why there isn't more moisture in the house.



Oh, most of the suspended floors downstairs have been insulated underneath, so not much air coming up through the floors I suspect.



Ramble, ramble, ramble.....



Cheers


Dave R


My 1930s house has quite a number of air bricks around it. They ventilate the cavity wall, rather than the rooms.

Which is why the building regs now require windows to have trickle vents in new builds and extensions.

I live in a house from 1939.It has no cavity walls. At ground level the air bricks are below the floor, but have had to have gauze over them to stop wasps. Upstairs the bricks are near the ceiling of all the rooms and the bedrooms chimneys had gas fires fitted up from the coal fires downstairs. There is only one chimney, but its brought from two coal fires below via alcoves eith an arch. Blocking up the chimneys downstairs meant that the bedrooms had a howling gale from the gas fires to the air bricks. The gas fires were removed or blocked off and a special anti resonant cowling fitted on chimney to stop the whole lot sounding like an organ pipe. New the problem with the air bricks was that the ceiling curved at the edges where the eaves are, and the only flat bit was the air brick so the normally wide slide to cover devices could not fit as the sides hit the curved ceilings. Hence we have a number blocked and others with temp bits of cardboard stuck over them. Luckily the loft is insulated, as before we double glazed we used to get icicles on the ceiling due, no doubt to an oil heater we had in the hallway kicking out water vapour. No sign of mould but my bathroom really needs a fan over the air vent in the winter as a nice hot bath makes the walls run with water at the moment. Brian

Our Victorian much modified timber frame farmhouse did not appear to have any original air inlets for the cooking range or the fire openings in each room. Late '30's doors/windows were never a good fit but the bedroom fire openings had been closed off and sliding vents fitted. (point for the O/P; chimney condensation issues).

Eek. How many Kilowatts of leccy do you use every year ?. I seem to recollect that you don't have gas, and heating a solid-walled, ?poorly insulated property with electric must be difficult and expensive.

been like that since at least the early 70's in Scotland anyway...adjustable 3500 mm SQ trickle vent to the outside in a window or an airbrick in the external wall....or a permanent vent above the door into the hall....all min 2m above floor level...Englandshire bound to be the same....

I feel sorry for landlords in this respect (i'm not one).

I see tenants pissing and moaning in the local rag/Facebook etc about 'damp'. Especially the workshy ones who are in all day. Arms folded and compo-face scowling at a mouldy wall.

We've a dehumidifier on in the room we dry clothes in and always crack the upstairs windows open for a few hours while we aren't using the rooms.

If we don't we get 'damp', especially where there is furniture or similar up against the walls.

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