using a 12V car tyre inflator on the mains via PSU adapter

Aug 07, 2020 36 Replies

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'conking out'.

I've got a Ring pump (no jokes please) that turned a 10 amp fuse into a vap our deposition tube as soon as I turned the thing on. Stuck a 15A fuse in a nd it purred away nicely.

Think I'll follow up on that - I too hate cigarette lighter sockets and plu gs, nasty wobbly bulky things, the SCART of power connectors.

And will generally disconnect (especially the smaller 15/30/45A ones) of you pull on them (trip over the cable) but can be locked closed against accidental impact type disconnection (RC cars) with an 'O' ring. ;-)

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I also use the bigger, SB50 range on all sorts of things (electric outboard motor to battery etc):

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Just for the S&G's ... I've ordered a cheap 200A power logger that I wanted to (temporarily) fit in the main 24V line on this mobility scooter I'm playing with for Mum. The 130A one I already have has a pair of XT90 connectors on it but they are genderised so you can't mix-n-match as easily (can be good or bad etc) as you can with many of the Anderson range.

The scooter (handily) uses unique connectors throughout (so you can't connect the wrong things together) but from previous experience I've found it difficult to get the same connectors as they use (and they charge a fortune for them, if you get anywhere near having them sell to you), making it difficult to add something like this power monitor into the circuit without replacing their connectors with say the SB50's and then hooking into those (which is what I might do).

Cheers, T i m

Yes, that's another good thing about them I had forgotten about. I have one on my 'bike to keep the battery charged and it has been known for me to drive off with it connected - no harm done. Also one on the ride on mower, same story! :-)

Yup. Never seat properly, and seem to be always mounted on flimsy plastic.

As a matter of interest, did you give up on the car tyre inflator (in which year?), and use some other inflating thing? He asked him, kindly?

I have a Lidl blower-upper for air beds and paddling pools and things, which shifts air quicker than; well, quickly.

;-)

When we first started using them on the 4X4 RC Touring cars we found that if they took a hard knock in the wrong direction the Powerpoles could fly apart, leaving the car dead on the track. So what I then did was trap an 'O' ring between the two wires on one half of the plug and then stretch / loop it round the other plug once together. Easy to put on / slip off but I don't think ever came undone in use.

They could also be ripped apart in an emergency by a knowing marshal and before the whole lot went up in flames!

Strange isn't it, there are few things in life I really like the design of and rely on but the various / Powerpole connectors are probably up there with my Leatherman PST II and my Garmin GPS's. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

p.s. I was given a couple of 'big' old mobility scooter batteries by a mate to 'play with' the other and he carried to over to me by the leads and SP50A plugs as handles. ;-(

not against no pressure

Hi Chris I ended up (this time) taking the mountain to Mohammed, and sited the pool next to the car (this is not always possible). Then I alternated between the inflater running off the lighter socket, and a manual 'Dual Action' pump ... that I had started with defore heading down this path.

I alternated mainly to keep the duty cycle down on the tyre inflater, I was wary of it overheating. An also the manual pump gives a lot more air per cylinder's worth.

It is all a pain because none of the connectors fit each other (dunno how the suggestion of a Schraeder valve is supposed to help, they don't fit either).

I too a bit more of a look at the pump actually intended for the high volume/low regime we are in here. You can get 12V ones, mains ones, and 'AC/DC' ones. They all seem to be the same kind of pump. either powered from 230V, or 12V, or 12V with a wall wart adapter.

Typical advertised rating is in the 120W--180W range. I was amused to be able to read on the photo of the low voltage adapter for one of these: "12V 500mA" !! I am thinking of picking up a 12V version and using that with one of my 'gash' adapters. I was trying to avoid buying ''stuff' though...

I too hate cigarette lighters, for several reasons. I also might look into the torberry connectors.

Oh, and it looks like at least one of the pool sections is deflating, sigh...

J^n

In message , jkn writes

I leave one of these attached to my compressed air line for *air cleaning* jobs.

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That's an address and 3 quarters!

Fitted my pool inlets OK.

It was a few years ago, but I decided to get a 230V ("high volume) one, 'cos if I was at home I could just plug it in, and if camping, I could run it off a cheap 150W inverter I bought, also frol Lidl Pidl. It's blown up a few air beds and paddling pools in its time!

My Halfords tyre inflator draws 6A.

Bill

Do you mean three pin XLR connectors? That's the usual type for scooters.

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Incidentally the little gadgets made to immobilise the scooter so you can take it on a plane are a right rip. They are just an XLR with two pins shorted out. £20!

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Bill

Well, it's mainly unnecessary crud

I think that is going to be my plan ... I *think* I already have an inverter similar to that, must check...

Hi Tim I actually picked up one of those at the weekend - and after about half an hour of experimenting it went back to Homebase for a refund.

- the nozzles didn't fit the pool intakes (grr...)

- I don't like the mains cable close to the water (the pool was partially filled at the time)

- It got awfully hot, not quite too hot to hold, but not far off

- what are those two small holes near the inflate outlet for? to ensure min imum outflow for the air? No mentioned in the 'manual', but didn't inspire me with confidence

- even with a Heath-Robinson arrangments of 'fitting' nozzles, it hardly se emed to work. I ended up reverting to my manual pump and three arms to hold everything.

I appreciate that the one you suggested is likely no bettor or worse than a ll the others for sale in AldiLidl, eBay etc. I wouldn't mind spending a bit m ore for something that actually di the job, sigh...

Cheers Jon N

Yeah, they are normally what they use for charging, or a 1/4" stereo jack, but they weren't the connectors I was referring to here. It's a bigger, square, two pin m/f spade locking gendered shell, possibly a

30A 'Lucar' type in this case that I was hoping to break into with the power logger.

Eg, I have to put the logger in series into the connector where the

24V joins the buggy (+Ve / -Ve). If I could get the same connectors they use, I could fit them to the tails that come on the logger and be sure I plug it in the right way round and it doesn't fall out / disconnect etc. If I *can't* get a plug / socket to match the existing, I could change out both connectors for ones I can source easily and also put them on the logger etc. XT90's or SB50's etc.

Interesting and thanks. 20 quid doesn't seem a lot for a (magic) 'mobility' spare part. ;-(

Cheers, T i m

[1] On this scooter, each 12V 50Ah (fin heavy) battery has it's own mini h/d loom, one having the fuse and an extra / different-but-similar locking-shell spade connector. You first plug the two batteries together (giving 24V with a fuse in the joining link) and then the second connector with the similar plug, joins the 24V to the buggy loom (with one leg first going to the thermal reset-able fuse).

I guess to maintain some cooling flow if you leave it running against a filled pool.

A simple centrifugal fan is never going pump against significant back pressure. Our pool has 2 air chambers, each about 450mm dia. and around

7m long. Takes less than a minute to fill each to the point where the pump is struggling to move more air. I guess the pressure might be 0.5 bar over atmospheric.

It appears your pool has a requirement for much higher pressure air.

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