UK power generation

In article , Dave Liquorice scribeth thus

Umm ... what do you do with a fresh air SWMBO who must have "ventilation" whatever the weather;?!...

In article , The Natural Philosopher scribeth thus

Perhaps there're testing them just in case the s*it hits the fan soon;?...

yessr. looks like a 300MW plant shut down.

Odd. they have throttled it back now.

bmreports.com possibly.

We had three short-lived power cuts this morning, over the space of two hours. The guy on the power-cut helpline said they were having 'problems' in the East of England.

Richard.

The obsession with electric heating that is the only logic for "very cold weather demands more electricity than normally cold weather". It can't be lighting, a cold winter isn't darker than a normal winter, the only extra demand a colder-than-usual winter makes is for extra heating, and all the proposed "solutions" are increased electricity capacity, not increased gas capacity, so that is based on the assumption/prescription that that additional heating is electric heating.

The discovery of frakable gas under Blackpool should be greated with "great, people can keep warm", not "great, let's build more power stations".

Politics trumps logic and engineering every time.

JGH

Install a heat recovery ventilation system.

Chris

Sorry against BRegs to open the windows, she gets cold?

There seemed to be an insane period when electricity was cheap and some architect (or several) though that electric heaters would save a fortune on installation costs. I'm fairly sure that the source of heating in these places is either slimline wall mounted heaters or air con being run in heat pump mode.

No boiler house / signs of exhaust being vented to atmosphere. In a couple of places if the electric panel is turned off temperature falls to freezing, so I don't see any evidence of other sources of heat.

The server and two computers keeps my living room a toasty 15'C with the doors closed and the central heating off, plenty comfortable enough with a coat on.

JGH

No.

It also means people are less likely to be outside and will be indoors watching stuff, cooking etc etc. With the lights and telly on.

And dark gllomy sunless days require 24x7 lighting.

However it is accepted that the vast majority of commercial office and retail space is heated and cooled with aircon type heat pumps.

and all the proposed "solutions" are increased electricity

well I cant argue with that.

They must be emptying Dinorwig faster than my wife can drain the hot water tank..

I feel like the bloke in the battle of Britain film 'all our reserves are up'...

Yeah well thats not that bad a solution IIRC in David Mackays book?...

Looks like it really is missing from the CSV download though. There are 16 fields in the header but only 15 in the data:

2012-12-12 19:19:40 (5.68 MB/s) - ?grid.csv? saved [14153508/14153508]

OK, I have. Which bit did you have in mind?

There are more numbers on the Celtic Jewellery half than the power one.

How will your system cope with a three day calm in winter if it's wind turbines feeding pump storage?

Andy

ah.

I'll look into that RIGHT NOW.

Ah. When I added the East West connector I forgot there were now 15 columns.

for(i=0;i [ian@vm45 ~]$ wget '

id,timestamp,demand,frequency,coal,nuclear,ccgt,ocgt,french_ict,irish_ict,dutch_ict,ew_ict, pumped,hydro,wind,oil

I thunk the idea is to dam the whole Irish sea and pump it all out when its windy, then you can let it fill up again when its not. They could do the same with the Mediterranean, and save Venice.

Beat me to it reporting that there is no oil data in the .csv. Loaded it into excel an hour or so back and a =max(P0:P (Thanks for the site btw!)

I meant to say I've manually run the updater, so try a new download..

Then flood Venice when the weather is cold in order to generate enough leccie... So not very different from now!