Tumble Dryer

[Capitol]

Electric in this household.

[Capitol]

Why not a straightforward vented electric? It will take years to recover the cost of a condenser unit.

[Andy Burns]

Which may tell you they were good a long time ago, but does that translate into the same brand being good now, or even under the same ownership?

[polygonum]

Not sure I agree!

Maybe if you go by the models I posted originally, which were middle-to-upper cost (but by no means the most expensive). But on the simplest criteria (not Hotpoint!), we could choose:

Indesit IDV75 Vented Tumble Dryer, 7kg Load, B Energy Rating, White at £157.00 using 3.98 kWh per cycle

Beko DHY7340W Heat Pump Condenser Tumble Dryer, 7kg Load, A++ Energy Rating, White at £309.00 using 1.68kWh/cycle

The formatting will get trashed, I'm sure, but the data below shows costs of these two models over considerable numbers of cycles. All sorts of assumptions are made, of course.

Cost Per Cost of Cost over base model cycle cycle

157.00 3.98 0.56 0.00 309.00 1.68 0.24 152.00

Cycles & cost (upper - cheap m/c, lower expensive m/c)

160 320 480 640 800 246.152 335.304 424.456 513.608 602.76 346.632 384.264 421.896 459.528 497.16

So after three years there is nothing in it, and every additional year has reduced cost compared against vented.

[www.GymRatZ.co.uk]

I'm in the same club then.

"cottons @ 40 degrees" for everything generally on "short cycle", only variation being a bundle of DIY clothes or whites then it gets the full length cycle and very occasionally for things like the sofa cover it gets a "water plus" treatment.

Refusing to wash "her" jumpers also simplifies things enormously.

:)

[Andrew]

You mean point to the one you do want and say you don't like it and then that will be the one she chooses. Female logic.

[RJH]

Ahem, condenser.

Buy a few Miele stickers?! I've been pleasantly surprised with the Beko

- have a look at one next time you're in a showroom. Very chunkily put together, and well designed.

[Bob Eager]

And they keep the house warn when they catch fire.

[polygonum]

The idea of Miele stickers has huge appeal, but absolutely zero chance of getting away with it.

One of the impacts of stories like the Hotpoint and Beko fires is to cause alarm - for obvious reasons. Trouble for the manufacturers is that the memory of those stories and the alarm makes you not want to be near them - ever - even if the design/manufacture has been thoroughly fixed. The effect of an association (of a brand) with an outcome (a fire and its consequences) which means you never want to see that brand in your house.

[Graham.]

I saw a website of generic kitchen appliances with advice on the lines of: "Our appliances are intentionally unbranded so whichever you chose will compliment each other perfectly".

Some people have appliences from different manufacturers? I wonder how they sleep at night.

[pamela]

You don't need to go though all the tech stuff. Go down to John Lewis and let her choose a basic Bosch machine. Job done. :-)

[polygonum]

we ended up with same make of refrigerator and freezer for one reason. We were pleased with our freezer - which we bought towards ten years ago

- so we bought the same make of refrigerator. The one we had bought at the same time as the freezer was chosen for a narrow space but had been disappointing and, now, smaller than we want.

Neither is a Beko! :-)

[polygonum]

John Lewis is too far away to visit.

[Bob Eager]

More by luck than judgement, we've ended up with a load of Bosch stuff:

- freezer, washing machine, tumble dryer, built in double oven, kettle, bean-to-cup coffee machine, food mixer

- corded drill, cordless {drill/driver, Ixo small driver, jigsaw, circular saw, radio [1]}

- and a WB boiler!

[1] Yes, Bosch radio. Google Bosch PRA radio - I got it half price or I wouldn't have bought it. Uses same batteries as the other cordless stuff, bar the Ixo of course). Weird beast.

[RJH]

They all do :-)