Tredair Type Underlay or Wool

Cloud 9?

We had this fitted a couple of years ago and are very pleased with it.

I use a crumb rubber and felt one from

Phil You want interfloor underlay which is 1st class. Much of it is made in the same factory as makes Hunter wellies and Gates transmission belts (although now operating as 3 seperate companies). Hope this helps. Calum Sabey (NewArk Traditional Kitchens 01556 690544)

Interesting. I had a carpet supplier say the same thing - can't get Tredaire any more! Well, surprise surprise, just go to

It was bought out by Interfloor a while back, but still available. As it happens, the supplier came up with another sponge rubber underlay, which was thick and dense, and better in my opinion than the old green Tredaire I always used to use (and my father helped manufacture). Weight is at least one useful parameter to ascertain the quality of what you will be getting - the stuff I have just put down in my lounge is very heavy.

Paul R

Same here, I've never been impressed by crumb rubber or tredaire stuff even when new. Once it's been down a while it just falls apart and a 1/4" thick layer of rubber dust makes for a lot of clearing up when you lift the carpet for what ever reason.

Now I don't know the stabilty of the polyurethane foam conglomerate stuff such as Cloud 9 but at least it's sealed between two layers of thin plastic. It also feels better under foot when new and is available in several thickness's. You chose the thickness with relation to the use of the room, thick for the bedroom, thiner for romms taking more traffic or punishment.

I have just replaced some Duralay crumb rubber underlay on my stairs, its been there for probably >10 years and showed very little wear except for a moderate amount of the bullnose of the treads. Certainly, its mechanical properties were still good, so I'd not dismiss Duralay crumb rubber as an inexpensive, hardwearing crumb rubber underlay. I only replaced it as the fitter who laid it had used scrappy offcuts that offended my sense of perfection!

Andy.