Toilet connection problem looming

[wounded horse]

I need to change an old low level flushpipe type toilet that discharges downwards into a pan connector in the bathroom floor.. The porcelain of the toilet to be changed faces downwards. I have bought a new close coupled toilet which discharges horizontally like all modern toilets. The 2nd issue is that as the close coupled toilet will be nearer the wall, I can't get onto the floor waste inlet with a 90 degree pan connector on the new WC. The soil stack is internal and boxed in in the bathroom corner to the left of the WC as I face it. Am I going to have to remove the boxing off the soil stack and add a branch to connect off the new toilet sideways?

[Set Square]

As far as I can see, you've got 3 options:

1. Use the existing floor socket with a 90 degree connector on the pan - and build a box or something to space the cistern out from the wall so that everything lines up. [Probably the easiest]
2. Move the floor socket nearer to the wall [Are the underfloor pipes clay or plastic? Is the floor solid or floorboards? - not too bad if its plastic pipes under floorboards, otherwise probably not on]
3. Blank off the existing floor connection and connect into the stack instead - involving removing the boxing and inserting a branch. [Bit of a fun job, that!]

[4. Don't even *think* about a Macerator!]

[Uno Hoo!]

I had exactly this problem when I replaced the toilet bowl and cistern in my downstairs loo. The floor was solid and I didn't fancy digging it up! First of all I bought a flexible soil pipe to connect from the horizontal outlet from the toilet bowl and down into the sewer pipe. This meant that I could get the cistern as close to the wall as possible. I then bought a sheet of ply to create a false wall behind the cistern. fixed it to the side walls with battens and put a shelf across the top. Works a treat and looks just fine. This was in a narrow downstairs cloakroom where I could insert the false wall right across between the two walls. If you are doing a similar job in a wider room then you would have to create some form of box behind the cistern.

Kev

[Andy]

What about an offset waste adapter? You don't tell us the amount of misalignment, but if it is a few centimetres an offset adapter could take it out. Also, there are 90degree waste adapter pipes, but also swan-necked 90degree waste adapter pipes which allow you to set a loo further back than possible with a standard 90 degree adapter.

Andy.

[Paul Andrews]

2 & 3 would be particularly problematic, if as in our house, the soil stack is made of cast iron..

Paul

[wounded horse]

All suggestions are gratefully received. The best suggestion for me is the one where I create a false wall and shelve the top. Excellent as I have had to insert a branch into a boxed stack before and it was a horrible job that took 3 times longer than I thought. Alos, I might have a look at how easy the floor comes up when I've had a vinyl tile or 3 up and see about moving the floor fitted soil inlet.

Thanks again