In out en-suite, the numpties who fitted it out actually tiled around the
This means either fitting the same fan each time there is a failure, or
doing some re-work to fit another model.
I recently fitted an Xpelair centrifugal type jobbie in the downstairs WC
which I think is far more effective than the Manrose axial fan in the
But the Xpelair won't cover the all the untiled area left by the Manrose.
So I would need to remove 4 tiles (parts of which have been cut away) and
replace with full ones, leaving only the extract hole and cable entry clear.
How easy is it likely to be to remove 4 tiles and replace without damaging
surrounding tiles and to achieve a good level with the new tiles?
Not too difficult... rake out some grout round the tiles to come off.
Get a bolster behind them and tap it until they come off. Scrape of any
excess residual adhesive and then re-tile.
The raking and scraping can be done easily with a multimaster if you
Reasonably easy with care.
The first step is to remove the existing grout around the tiles in
question where they join with the others. You need to go all the way
to the bottom and the adhesive as well, and frankly it's good if you go
into the plaster(board) that's good too. This is an excellent
reason to purchase a Dremel. A good one. :-)
Starting where the fan is mounted, you can then carefully pry away the
tiles. Some people crack them first by tapping them carefully with a
hammer and chisel. The thing to be careful about is the underlying
surface. If it's plasterboard, then some or all of the cardboard will
come away. If you went through that at the first step, then the tear
will stop at the join. If the plaster isn't that good, then try to
avoid any damage going to beyond the area of the tiles being removed.
You might want to make the surface good afterwards, but it isn't
probably worth it. The new adhesive will do that unless you've gone
all the way to the wall underneath or something.
The new tiles can be positioned with adhesive, probably using a 3-4mm
comb unless they are large format tiles when 5-6 is more typical. You
can use a wooden batten across the surrounding tiles and new ones to
achieve a good level with the other tiles. If you haven't done much
tiling, then a standard rather than fast setting adhesive is better
because it gives more open time in case you need to remove the tiles
and add or subtract adhesive.
Make sure to clean out any grout in the gaps.
The existing grout, even if white, may have discoloured. Sometimes
off-white grouts are used, or even a shade. You can buy small
quantities of these or some tiles shops have colour charts which are
Matching the grout colour is possibly the hardest part of the job.
Thanks for the How-to guides.
Been out and about over dinner time, but am having no luck tracing the
These were fitted when we bought the place, so there are no spares around.
My other option is to fit a plasic frame around the back of the new fan
casing to cover the areas where the tiles are missing.
Not such a good job, but will allow me to move up to a decent extractor fan.
How about 4 contrasting tiles? If you don't have the originals, then
this may well look better than a poor attempt at a match?
Are there some other places in the room that you could drop in some of
these contrasting tiles so that it doesn't look like a specific fix for
the extractor fan. For example some plain tiles and some with
pattern/motifs for other places.
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:12:05 -0000, TheScullster wrote:
Can you get matching tiles? If you can you should be able to replace them
and not be able to see the join.
Removing the old ones shouldn't be to bad. *Fully* scrape out, right into
the plaster, the grout lines between the tiles you want to keep and those
you don't then try a thin something under the edge of the one(s) you want
to remove and gently lever, they might just pop off. If not progessively
increase what you are using say a bolster next gently taped, right up to
cutting them out bit by bit with a small cold chisel.
The skim plaster may well come away with the old tiles, this is what you
want to make sure that you have fully scrapped the joints out to hopefully
stop the skim coming away past the grout line and thus under the tiles you
want to keep...
Dave. pam is missing e-mail
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