I've been using Pan for ages on this Win 10 Home/64 PC until a couple of days ago when I clicked its icon and the Pan window appeared and immediately disappeared! Now that happens every time, so I've installed VirtualBox and installed Linux Mint on that and installed Pan on that and it works! Any idea why it's gone pear-shaped on Windows?
s'Windows, innit. If you're familiar with VB and Linux, why are you still using 'doze?
That's windows for you. My VB windows went peasghhaped once, but I reverted to a previous snapshot..
I STRONGLY advise you map part of your Linux disk OUTSIDE the VM for data storage for Winders. So if windows takes a dump your data is elsewhere and you can reinstall/revert to snapshot etc
Cos it's slightly more user friendly than Linux!
If I only use Linux to run Pan I don't think I'll lose much sleep if it goes pear-shaped.
Windoze has tied itself up with all these security updates, there so many applications I have used over the years, that M$ has now decided are potential unwanted programs. It is now necessary to strip out all the defender crap......just keep a good disk image ready for recovery, if anything happens.
An update to Pan or Windows that introduced a conflict or incompatibility would be the most likely. Disk corruption would be another possibility.
Check the disk for errors, and download and reinstall the latest version of Pan. If that does not fix it, run windows update and apply all outstanding ones. (Since you have the Home version it tends to apply them itself fairly promptly anyway)
If still no joy, then get windows to scan for corrupted or conflicting files. Open a command prompt or power shell with admin privilege, and do:
DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth
Then:
sfc /scannow
Let that run to completion.
More details on the process here:
Although they've loosened up a little in some ways: I've just cloned a Windows system to an SSD, switched the boot order and the new installation Just Worked. There was a time when a change of hardware, especially a drive, would require re-registration.
Have you had that issue where Pan refuses to post your message, giving a 'bad email address' error? I understand that's an issue with Mint.
Not so far, touch wood!
Never seen that, and I've used Pan on Linux for many years, but a different distribution.
I have Pan on W10 Professional, but haven't fired it up for a while.
I'll fire it up and check that it works.
Cheers
Dave R
Well, rocking along here.
Pan 0.146.
From previous experience Pan is not good at coping with file corruption and just dies much in the way you describe. Faint memory of something similar happening to me, but not recently.
Pan also loses posts if it crashes after interacting with them.
Anyway, assuming that you are on thhe same version I suspect your local installation.
Cheers
Dave R
Having said that, it just crashed out on me but came back up seemingly OK.
A couple of posts I had read were showing as unread again.
Fingers crossed
Dave R
I still use Windows because some bits of specialised hardware only work with it (ignoring Apple for the moment).
I used to use Linux a lot more, but don't really bother now.
Cheers
Dave R
Use the command prompt and try and start it there.
cd /d C:\Program Files\pan.rebelbase.org\Pan pan.exe
then watch for errors.
At least 0.146 loads here. Pan146 on Win11.
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I've had it with Mint, MX and Arch.
It's possible Pan's configuration has become confused. I'd look in C:\Users\<username>\AppData and look for any files related to Pan. Move them to a safe place out of the way, and then see if Pan will start. If it does, try moving any config files back one by one until it fails again.
(if it keeps any kind of 'cache' in there, it is worth deleting it and seeing if that helps)
Theo
I did these and sfc said it found errors and corrected them. After rebooting, Mint wouldn't run! I've had to reinstall it.
MS? Pah!
There is apparently a .ini file you can rename or move out of the way, to temporarily tip it upright again. But that does not solve the problem, because you then don't know what structure or structures in its file set, is the problem.
Paul
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