SOT: Leaving Hive Hub behind when you move house

[Graham.]

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Hive hubs Jim. Washing machines are one floor down.

[Roger Mills]

Hive tell you to take your Hive Hub with you when you move house "because the new occupier won't be able to use it". WHY?

OK, you'll have set up a Hive account in your name and you won't be able to change that. BUT, using the mobile app (but not the desktop app), you can change the email address and mobile number associated with the account. So if you change those to the new occupier's details, they will then be able to control the hub, won't they, as long as they don't mind seeing your name displayed rather than theirs?

Or am I missing something?

[Peter James]

And wtf is a Hive Hub.

[jim.gm4dhj]

get a new maching ... I had a punter who wedged his out of balance machine under a worktop and nearly demolished a tenement...

[alan_m]

Are not BG dropping/killing off all hive devices by 2025?

[jim.gm4dhj]

machine

[jim.gm4dhj]

what?

[Paul]

It's home automation.

ZigBee Wifi Wifi Light-Bulb -------- Philips-Hue-Bridge Router HiveHub

Zigbee is like Bluetooth (neither is very useful).

All these white boxes are registered to you. When you move home, do you drag the gadgets with you (because they're registered to your email), or do you leave them on the premises ?

You can be a hundred miles from your house, and use your smart phone, to turn on a light bulb in your house. Or change the Philips Hue bulb from white to pink. And you can do this, because the SmartPhone talks to a server on the Internet, the server on the Internet knows the IP address of your Hive, the Hive sends the command to the Hue Bridge, the Hue Bridge does a zigbee to the light bulb.

See ? It's digital, innit.

*******

In the old days, home automation was done with a BSR X-10. If you had an incandescent lamp in the living room, there was a module that plugged into a wall outlet. The lamp plugged into the module.

Elsewhere in the house, was the BSR control panel. And from there, you could turn the living room light on and off.

One of my friends had his entire place wired with those stupid things. He could even turn the bathroom light on and off from the living room. He had also set it up, so the "beat" from the stereo bass, modulated the lights as well.

So back in those days, none of this stuff connected to the Internet and it didn't use SmartPhones, or Zigbee, or Bluetooth, or Wireless (Wifi). You could only turn the lights on and off, from the BSR console.

But there isn't much documentation now, for the other end. How do you turn the heating system on ? Well, there's a wireless thermostat, so you'd have to get the thermostat to turn on the heating for you. The assumption is, a "smart" thermostat is already connected to the heating, and you can do tricks with it. Maybe you have an Alexa (microphone) in the room, and you say "Alexa -- turn on heat".

The problem with a lot of this stuff, is there is a server on the Internet, that gets your request to turn on the heating. If the company hosting the server goes out of business, your shit ain't workin. At least, not from 100 miles away. If Alexa goes out of business, saying "Alexa -- turn on heat" does nothing.

Paul

[The Natural Philosopher]

Guess why I am building my own, with the features I want :=)

PCB on the way from China, I believe...