Solar panels and payback

you've forgotten "Reform". - or perhaps by their omission you were suggesting voting for them?

So far, Nige has been conspicuous by his silence. What's going on? Not a peep from any of them, far as I know.

I assumed "A wasted vote when that party has little chance of getting enough MPs to fill a taxi" implied the usual slur on reform.

Silence on what issue?

He's been his usual ebullient self as far as I know. The fact that the MSM deliberately excludes him from the news is hardly his fault...

"Net zero policy is "crippling our economy" so scrapping climate change goals should be made a priority for the next government as it would save the public sector £30bn per year for the next 25 years, the document says.

Instead of reducing the use of fossil fuels, Reform UK says the "fast-track" for "clean" nuclear energy, planting more trees, recycling more and ending single-use plastics will protect the environment."

As far as Nigel goes, he is on nearly every night as a GBnews presenter

Reform doesn't have Lord Alli filling their coffers (ans wardrobes). It takes time to prepare a manifesto

On any issue. Does he speak in the HoC? Made his maiden speech yet? Labour has shown itself up in spades since July as the set of hypocrites we always knew they were and expected them to show themselves up to be. And yet not a peep on the Beeb website about the blizzard of withering speeches I was expecting. Where are they? Do we see them on BBC Parliament? - which could hardly get away with censoring them. I was jumping up and down with anticipation - he put the boot in in Brussels often enough - and yet zzzzzzzz.

Apropos of this, are you all aware that soft plastic can be recycled at least at Morrison's Tesco, and Sainsbury? That is, all soft plastic that you can't put in with your kerbside plastic recycling. I'm talking about crisp packets, choccy biscuit wrappers, the plastic they wrap around loo rolls - that sort of stuff. Find a large now-empty plastic bag (such as the bag I got 10kg of cat biscuits in, or the 25kg of salt tablets for the water softener, or the bag that your 24 loo rolls comes in) - fill with the plastic recycling, seal it to keep the stuff in, and drop off somewhere near the front door just inside the store.

Typically near the front door for this purpose they position one of those tall containers they wheel round the store putting cardboard recycling in.

Our black bin for land-fill gets put out less than once a month now, with everything being recycled.

Even The Guardian says that most of that soft plastic ends up being incinerated

That doesn't entirely surprise me, as there are many types of such plastic sheet and presumably to be that useful it would have to be sorted - hardly worth while. But at least by being burnt it gets used twice rather than once, and doesn't end up in landfill or the ocean.

CHP incinerators to reduce plastics and other organic trash to pollution free power and low grade heat are the obvious solution to most of our waste disposal. Only metals and glass need to be sorted out of that .

"By placing a reflective material, such as an empty crisp packet, behind your radiators, you can bounce the heat back into your room instead of letting it escape through the walls. It's an easy, cost-effective way to make the most of your heating."

Have to wash them first.

High voltage > 1,000 > 1,500 Electrical arcing Low voltage 50 to 1,000 120 to 1,500 Electrical shock Extra-low voltage < 50 < 120 Electrical fire

Extra-low voltage (ELV)... which carries a low risk of dangerous electrical shock.[2][3][4][5]

But, hey, it's just a spec, and the implications should not be taken too seriously. That table is not a guarantee of anything, and the more compromised the situation, the higher the chance of a surprise ending. (You're in the bath, charging your iPhone :-) )

You can kill a person, using only 1.5V, if you know how to apply it. The notion of safety above, is making some assumptions about how a person may come in contact with the stated voltage.

If you're going to work on a battery in a loft, at least keep the terminals in the battery covered with a plastic that won't fall off. You can see above, the table says "electrical fire" is the risk.

Let's examine this sinful situation. You buy a pair of these clamps, to fit batteries on a cable. What's wrong with this ? No safety covering over the clamps. Every ampere that battery has to offer, is going to flow through your crowbar, when your crowbar falls across the metal. So right away, this is a "See something ? Say something!" violation. When the exposed metals are covered, the downstream fusing might just protect you, when you drop your crowbar somewhere else. But right at the battery terminals, is a "safety first" area, where you have to assure yourself that the appropriate insulation is in place. If I come up into your loft and see this, I will drop tools and leave if this is not rectified.

When you work anywhere near a battery, you have of course, removed all rings, watches, and gold chains. And you checked to make sure a dropped tool, won't cause an immediate problem. Like the clamps in the example.

Paul

And that's why when you cover your food in foil in the oven it never cooks. :)

Some random green idiot will actually believe this...

That would be a crisp expert then, rather than a heating and cooling expert.

Many decades ago my school bought a language lab. It had special desks with reel-to-reel recorders in them, everyone had headsets, and you could practice things and listen to yourself. (So could the teacher unannounced, which gave me a shock once).

The acoustics in the room were terrible. Someone came up with an answer. Everyone in the school got an egg tray, and painted it in colours of their choice. They were then stuck on the walls.

It might not stop the sound getting through, but it certainly worked on the echos.

(I just looked on Google Earth. The building has gone now, but ***** those trees have got big!)

Andy

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Yes, I think the point of egg boxes on the wall was to benefit those inside the room, not those outside.

Again, many decades ago, a friend had a small recording studio in a spare bedroom of his parents' house, the walls lined with egg boxes which certainly cut down the 'boxy' sound within the room, but did little to deaden the noise outside the room.

That is as expected.

In fact the best way to build a recording studio is inside an airtight concrete box suspended on springs and lined with the equivalent of egg boxes - if you want complete isolation and totally anechoic, which isn't ideal for many recordings.Will stop the neighbours complaining about the noise tho.

Concert halls are carefully tuned with multiple reflective surfaces to get a pleasant reverberation.