Solar Panels

[dennis]

From the post you half read

I'm not the one suggesting they did die from radiation or that it was covered up.

[John Cartmell]

Non-workers? We have had a nuclear 'accident' or more in this country.

[Mary Fisher]

We have road accidents.>

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Mary Fisher" saying something like:

I read plenty of the reports at the time and subsequently.

Not directly, no.

The problem with nuclear accidents of a small nature is the effects very often aren't seen for years as people move away and their premature death is simply lost in the geneal morbidity clutter.

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Mike Halmarack saying something like:

She didn't go into the bits she claimed she did. Sure, she was in some of the lesser-contaminated areas, but nowhere near the areas of real contamination.

It's just mostly made-up. It certainly got her some publicity, which might have been the purpose all along.

[Ashnook]

When I started this tread off I didn't realise the conversations I would cause. Thanks for all the information on solar panels, I am still not sure what to do but the information was very useful.

Top post / bottom post.... now I am confused :-)

Brian

[Doctor Drivel]

Yet, all the leading experts all around the world thing exactly the opposite of you.

[David Hansen]

On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:14:44 GMT someone who may be "dennis@home" wrote this:-

You are able to read my mind and thus to know whether I read it fully, half or not at all? Fascinating.

Who wrote

"I'm propounding no conspiracy here - though we know there were attempted cover-ups. I know that deaths that may have been caused by radioactive leaks were never reported let alone investigated."

[Doctor Drivel]

Two wrongs make a right then.

[Doctor Drivel]

So two wrongs make a right again. Strange logic.

[dennis]

Here we have a standard format..

This isn't a conspiracy

However I know of bad stuff

That was covered up

No reports were made

etc.

Sounds like a conspiracy claim to me and to many others I expect.

[dennis]

In this case it may. If they die in a road crash then they can't be a radiation statistic later. Now there is an idea for the conspiracy theorists. ;-)

[Mr X]

In article , Doctor Drivel writes

Oh yes, those guys who have to get research grants from time to time otherwise they are out of work and otherwise unemployable.

And the politicians are only too happy to agree

Global warming disaster? -- let's create a new tax

Too much carbon dioxide? -- let's create a new tax

Who gives the "experts" their grants? Oh yes, the politicians...

Try to wake up to what is really going on around you instead of being a sheep.

[John Cartmell]

So are you saying that the Windscale stack fire never happened?

[dennis]

Where did you get that idea? It is a well known fact that the reactor core caught fire not the stack.

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Mr X saying something like:

Fwiw, I agree with your points - all this will happen, and more.

So, let's PARTY!

[Steven Briggs]

In message , Mike Halmarack writes

Comparisons with Deaths from other Accidents/Disasters

Chernobyl is the worst civil nuclear power accident to ever occur. It killed 31 people directly and it will cause cancer deaths in the long term, though these are unlikely to be detectable compared to cancer deaths from other causes.

To put the accident into context, the following comparisons might be helpful:

? The International Atomic Energy Agency has worked out that 40,000 deaths are caused each year in the USA by people inhaling the fumes from burning fossil fuels in coal-fired power stations. In 1981 chronic bronchitis, which is likely to have been caused by burning fossil fuels, was responsible for 15,600 deaths in England and Wales, according to J H Fremlin in his book ?Power Production: What are the Risks??. Writing in the New Scientist in March 1974, Dr Joel Schwartz, of the US Environmental Protection Agency, estimated that traffic fumes cause

10,000 deaths every year in England and Wales.

? In 2003 4,300 died mining coal in China alone.

? In 1984 a natural gas explosion in Mexico City killed 500 people and injured 4248 people. A further 31,000 people were made homeless when the plant exploded.

? In 1984 a release of methyl isocyanate at Bhopal, India, killed 2850 people and injured 200,000 (most permanently).

? In 1979 the Great Machhu II Dam at Gujerat in India failed killing

15,000 people directly.

? When part of a coal spoil tip slid onto the village of Aberfan in South Wales in heavy rain in 1966, 116 children were among 147 people killed.

In terms of the number of fatalities per TWh of electricity generated nuclear is by far the safest form of generation. The figures compiled by the Paul Scherrer Institute in Switzerland in fatalities per TWh are:

? Hydro 883 ? Oil 418 ? Coal 342 ? Gas 85 ? Nuclear 8

Source : Nuclear Industry Association

[Mike Halmarack]

Strange indeed. I never mentioned wrong or right. I wrote that they weren't "exactly the same".

[Doctor Drivel]

The clear implication was that because there were fatalities in other industries then it is all right. Like people who scrape the barrel to justify their nicotine addiction mention road deaths or death by alcohol.

[Matt]

Well they would say that wouldn't they?

I seriously doubt those Hydro figures (but I'm still a supporter of nuclear energy)