Smart meter?

Jul 04, 2013 74 Replies

They can't control the current or the voltage of your supply so there isn't much they can do to reduce it.

They want you to have the red, amber green display in the kitchen so you try and reduce your consumption. Note that its the kitchen where they think you can save electricity so they want you to have the display there.

Of course they may introduce similar tariffs to those of industrial users where you get charged less if you have smaller peaks.

They certainly did on mine. They changed the fuse to a lower rated one and resealed it all.

They even put the temporary earth connections on the gas while changing the meter even though its a plastic pipe. He said he thought it was a bit pointless but it has to be done.

Maybe it got reset when they fitted my new SED?

On 04/07/2013 14:34, Bill wrote: .

If it's a cold caller it's the foot in the door type scum attempting to get you to change suppliers. They pretend to be offering a smart meter but are only after your signature agreeing to a new supplier.

Not if you buy my meter sized Faraday cage.

If they really want to be more like ISPs as someone suggested, they could adopt 95th percentile electricity charging!

Upto 230V. Upto 50 Hz.

(Yes, I do know "up to"... :-) )

Quite. He's one of the most generous people I know, but paranoid about the amount of gas an electricity he uses.

I've had a smart meter for a couple of years (installed by Eon at their initiative). Apart from the controlling of supply, hacking, rationing aspects discussed elsewhere on this thread, I'm happy with the smart meter. I don't see a meter reader any more (apart from their minimum

2-year or whatever minimum requirement to read meters), and I get accurate quarterly bills (usually with a reading from the day before the bill date). The kit included a display (with traffic lights) which I keep in the house, which I find helpful to remind me if I've left something on unnecessarily; the meter itself is in the garage. I am told the meter readings are SMS'd monthly back to the supplier. I have a feeling I'm stuck with my supplier & their smart meter, so moving supplier could be a little bit harder (but not impossible).

Allan

Me neither.

Agreed. Why can't these people employ decent security advisors?

And you will have to pay to get a smart meter while the energy company will absorb the savings as increased profits.

They will probably get some sort of legal immunity.

They could jack up the rates when you go over the power limit (as Steve First has explained is the case in Italy).

No, but that's our problem, not the power companies'.

On Friday 05 July 2013 13:46 Steve Firth wrote in uk.d-i-y:

I wonder if people ar as cavalier with their online backing details...

Agreed in principle, though I have lockouts implemented hence the choice not to make the password too onerous. And fail2ban to block IPs of cracking scripts (this trips regularly, usually with some chinese IP). It was a great day when I migrated everyone to a kerberos backend.

The retry time is a bit irrelevant as an attacker can simply hit several parallel conenctions to whatever they are trying to crack.

This however will still trip the lockout :)

But most banks don't let *you* set a password, they set one for you, a couple of mine let me set a phrase or picture that'll be displayed during login as an anti-phish confidence check.

On Friday 05 July 2013 15:13 Andy Burns wrote in uk.d-i-y:

Mine does (RBS, so also Natwest will be the same).

First Direct lets you set the passwords but they also use those dumb 'memorable' question/answer crap.

Like the ones I found on one site... Who is your favourite teacher? Who is your favourite boy band?

I know someone who always answers these type of questions with variations of "I'll never remember". Unfortunately he often cannot remember which variation he filled in for each site.

The most annoying sites are those who want you to register, and want all these security answers, before you can pay for the one item of goods you wish to buy. Afterwards you will find the price is ex VAT and the postage cost is twice the value of the goods.

I give totally fictitious answers to most such questions, though I do keep some notes... I have only once fallen foul of this, when I'd told a bank that my mother's maiden name was something random and then forgot that I'd given them that value. A visit to a branch, with a passport, was needed to sort that one out.

As does hsbc and santander, you need the keypad code generator for hsbc as well to log in and to set up payments. Santander wont set up a payment without a one time code sent to your mobile.

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