well, here's a dilemma...
The plastic drum outer body on our washing machine - a 16-year old
Hotpoint WD62 washer-dryer - scracked the other day. Not sure why, but
it went bang and started leaking water, and opeeed it up and saw a
massive crack on the side. Above the water line but obviously it
sploshes out when the mahine is spinning.
This is machine has otherwise lasted very well. I've only just changed
the motor brushes but the drum bearing has never seemed to need changing.
I've just discovered that I could buy the outer drum body:
and take the whole machine to bits to replace it! Good idea or not?
The pros: the machine is dual-fill, which is difficult to find these
days. The machine has proved sturdy and reasonably reliable. The machine
was made in the UK which is difficult to find these days (Ebac have just
started making in the UK but they don't make washer dyers and their
products are not available until September, anyway)
The cons: half a day of messing about, and assuming everything else is
OK inside the machine (I see no reason yet to assume otherwise).
What do you reckon?
On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 10:36:53 +0100, Michael Kilpatrick
That would be the question I would want to answer first, 'why'?
You can get some silicone based adhesives that can even work on wet
Cool. The 13 moth old Zanussi I got of Freecycle was written off
because the bearings had failed. I cut the (welded) plastic drum in
half, replaced the bearings, joined the drum back together and used it
for another 7 years. ;-)
If you like doing that sort of thing, can afford it (v buying a new
machine) and like the S&G's, why not. ;-)
We had that when considering replacing our elderly conventionally
vented tumble dryer. Couldn't easily find one with the outlet in the
same place or with the same features so just repair it as required.
I was quite sad when the bearings *finally* went on the Zanussi and
sort of regretted letting our daughter go and buy us a new one and
taking the other one away (girl with a van <g>).
The reason was ... we (the Mrs and I fixed it together) had some
history with the machine (recovering it when all the advice was that
it was impossible / not cost effective) and I *knew* I could do the
same again. However, a pile of important washing and my time
*supposed* to be focusing on more important things meant I had to let
it go ... ;-(
Cheers, T i m
I tried that, as I happened to have some. Unfortunately, because plastic
things like this tend to have stresses inside them such that when the
crack they distort, the crack opened up further after I had applied this
sealant liberally. There's no way of pushing it back into shape.
It also appears that there is very little gap between the metal drum and
this outer body, and there appears to be a piece of the plastic inside,
I think, which caught and made matters worse when I tested it with the
I think I will quickly try and look inside - taking the inner drum out -
before I order a new body this afternoon.
On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 11:32:00 +0100, Michael Kilpatrick
When we cut though what could have been a rubber sealed joint between
the two drum halves (welded to save the cost of the seal and 8 screws)
and went to re-join them we found that even the saw cut removed
sufficient material that the *length* of the steel drum was now too
much for the inside of the plastic tub assembly.
So we spaced the halves apart with some thick stainless washers,
replaced whatever the seal might have been with some neoprene round
section strip and backed it up with the aforementioned 'super
silicone'. Bolted it all up and it never leaked or moved, even when
the bearings finally failed 7-8 years later.
Nothing to do with your scenario, just to say that you can often fix
these things even when the odds are against you. ;-)
Cheers, T i m
Wouldn't that apply to any such appliance in any case?
Don't these things flood and burn down homes without us ever touching
As with any such things I (I can't answer for anyone else) rigorously
monitor any such repair work straight after doing it and never leave
the thing unattended until it proves itself to be as reliable as any
machine ever can be. ;-)
Cheers, T i m
Depending on the location of the crack, and whether or not it looks like
it is going to propagate, might it be repairable? Presumably an axial
crack, so a "bandage" using something like Sylglas / Denso tape might
help to keep it closed, and also provide sealing. Perhaps difficult to
bandage all the way around, but you could bind the drum with something
like string (for strength) and then just tape over the crack area. Bear
in mind that the outer drum is (probably) structural, i.e. it supports
the bearings and inner drum, as well as seeing the tension from the
On Friday, 29 July 2016 11:07:41 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
Many plastics can be hot welded, I'd probably look at that first. String is no use, it stretches, and starts with a small fraction of the strength of the tub.
Your choice innit, we don't know what suits you.
At that price, I'd hesitate. Spending over a hundred pounds repairing a 16
yr old machine just does sound sensible to me. I appreciate the joy of
keeping old machines going but the older the machine, the less sense it
makes to spend large amounts if money on repairs.
Dual fill is over-rated. Most powders work better with a cold fill and
unless you machine is next to a combi, the "dead space" in your pipework
will mean that little HW actually reaches your machine. It's really not a
good reason to hang on to an old machine.
Until recently. ;-) Who knows what lies around the next corner?
Time to treat yourself to a new machine IMO. ;-)
Trolls AND TROLL FEEDERS all go in my kill file
It may be worth checking out a fixed price repair from Hotpoint. Our
first one died after 16 years and I deemed it uneconomic to repair.
Stupidly, I bought another Hotpoint - nothing like the old one of course.
The bearings lasted 13 months and required a complete drum replacement at
£130. I got a fixed proce repair from Hotpoint for £98 all in.
Bearings went after another year and I bought a Bosch Logiixx.
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If you buy a new machine, bear in mind that it's life
expectancy will only be 5 years and it will not rinse or wash nearly as
well as your existing one. Her new machine has to have all clothes
double rinsed to meet her standards! Even Which says that the current
machines are crap.
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