I've got a New World Royale 600 gas cooker with a self-lighting oven - you turn the gas on and the sparker clicks away until the oven lights.
First, how's it do that then?
Second, it only works when it feels like it - about 7 times in 10. Any idea why?
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Christian McArdle
Hardly rocket science.
Flame sensor, igniter, knob position sensor or any cables or PCBs linking them, I'd think.
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Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot
Probably not, but then I don't think tiling is rocket science, or earth bonding, or a lot of the questions asked here.
Thanks for that.
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Ric
You wouldn't want to bond a rocket to earth - that would defeat the object surely.
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Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot
Hehehe! Might as well though, for the good they do. Ah, but where would we be without pens wot write upside-down?
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Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot
Do they work upside-down?
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Ric
Pens are obsolete - you could use a laptop instead.
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Ian Stirling
Depends what the object is. If you'r testing it to see if it works properly, it can be a lot more convenient if it's tied down, so you can easily measure stuff, and you don't have to go and haul it out of the ocean afterwards.
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"Christian McArdle" wrote | > I've got a New World Royale 600 gas cooker with a self-lighting | > oven - you turn the gas on and the sparker clicks away until | > the oven lights. | > First, how's it do that then? | Hardly rocket science.
Presumably there must be a similar mechanism on rockets to ignite them? I can't see NASA sending out for some two-furra-pound gas lighters every time they want to do a launch.
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Christian McArdle
Actually, thinking about it, I think it might be rocket science. If the thing didn't light when you started spewing fuel out of the end, it wouldn't be good, would it?
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Chris J Dixon
Back with pencils ;-)
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Martin Warby
I would image most bits would work fine,may have a bit of a problem with the hard disk though
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Christian McArdle
Yes. Did you see that programme where they got some high up bods in the Soviet and US space programmes together? The American was boasting about how they'd spent millions getting an upside down anti-gravity pen working. When asking the Soviets how they solved that problem, they replied that they used pencils!
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Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot
Blimey - it *is* rocket science! :)
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Ian Stirling
It varies. For example, the solid rockets on the shuttle are ignited by a small rocket motor mounted in the top. This is lit by a small pyrotechnic device. When it lights, it fills the chamber of the rocket with hot pressurised gas, and rapidly lights off the main engine.
The main engines do almost use gas-lighters. They are basically really big spark plugs, hooked up to a high power ignition system.
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Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot
Well FMOB! :)
Every day's a school day.
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Peter
It is by flame rectifcation when the oven ignites the ignition generator senses the flame in the spark gap and turns off
What happens when it does not work ? Do you mean you mean it doesnt ignite or does not stop sparking when oven is lit ?
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Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot
Ah, well that's half of it. That could explain why it works better when I've given it a good scrubbing.
It just doesn't spark at all and we have to push the ignition button. Not a problem, of course, but things that are supposed to work annoy me when they don't. Might there be a switch on the oven gas tap? I'll go and give it a prod (technical term)...
Aha! I've never played before...:) If I turn the knob just a few degrees, before the gas starts coming out even, it starts sparking. Switch?
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Ed Sirett
OK. I'm not familiar with this model but other models which work like this do the following:
Attached to the spindle of the gas knob is a microswitch unit which powers the sparker. The electrodes of the sparker once the gas is lit are immersed in the flame this means the that although the sparker is running the mini bolt of lightning is shorted out by the flame and can't be heard. [2] All the rest of the operation (flame failure detection and regulo stuff) is the same as all other ovens.
[2] I beleive the Pott. Netaheat boilers work like this also.
Duff microswitch unit on the gas knob. Poor HT cabling, Poor/eroded electrodes...
Most other things are more likely hard faults.
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Ric
Would probably be okay upside down - although the bearings might go if you used it on its side.
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