I am in the market for a new one. Having popped into B&Q I see a good
number of these with a great price difference. Bearing in mind that I
will be using it for fairly infrequent D-I-Y work what are the
recommendations? I would like a fair range of drills and a chisel bit,
so if included in the price an advantage perhaps.
ideal drill is light (around 2kg, not 5 or 6), has a good speed
control (this matters when chiselling since it controls how "hard" you
are hitting it), a chisel you can lock off in any rotation position (try
cutting a neat straight chase in a wall with a chisel that rotates about
with a mind of its own), and a safety clutch (SDS drills can't slip in
the chuck, so a clutch that lets go before your wrist, chin, or gonads
intercept the rotation is a "nice to have" (tm))
Alas that lot usually puts you in the £90+ category with tools like a
Makita, blue bosch, hitachi, dewalt, or possibly a ryobi.
Personally I would go for:
however you just want something brutal for knocking stuff down, and
making holes in concrete (with impressive exit wounds), then any £40
shed special will do ;-)
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:16:34 +0000, tony sayer
Bought a MacAllister a couple of years ago. Exellent performer I
found. Came with quality SDS chuck some decent bits and beefy screw-on
90 deg handle. Cost about £90 afaik remember. Agree with the above
sentiment - and so much better than Masonmasters :-)
I have a Wickes 2Kg, cost about £100 a number of years ago. Very good
machine. Mine was a re-badged Kress, serviced by Draper who replaced a
damaged lead FoC out of warranty. Worth a look at although I don't know
if they are still made by Kress.
Fully concur. I bought mine as a bit of a one-off job (sinking a dozen
or so sockets throughout the house) however I've ended up using to for
a whole manner of jobs - demolishing an extension, breaking up a
patio, removing tiles, drilling holes for pipes/cables through walls.
Despite being a hefty beast you can actually be quite delicate with it
once you get used to its handling (particularly with the rotation off
and hammer turned off - there is then only the very slightest of
hammer action so no danger of knocking huge chunks out). I've never
found the lack of chuck lock a problem.
For all my jobs I've managed with a cheap muti-set of bits and a
separate 500mm bit for the longer holes.
I don't doubt there are benefits with the more expensive but I really
couldn't ask for more from mine, and I can't imagine getting neater/
Some 8 years ago I bought one from Lidl. That one died after 2.5 years, well
I killed it by inadvertently doing prolonged chiselling with the air intake
blocked. Not before it had completed an earlier very heavy chiselling job I
bought it for mind. Like all Lidl power tools it came with a 3 year warranty
so I dialled the helpline number and they sent me a new one, complete with
all the accessories including the chisel I had worn out!
Lidl SDS drill mark two is still working well 5.5 years later having had as
much use, but less abuse than mark one.
I like their tools, and have yet to have a bad one. They have always done
what I want to do and other than that drill and a hot air gun have never let
me down, even then both were replaced under the 3 year warranty.
Strangely their HS steel drill bits are very good, but their masonry ones
I suppose it depends on how strong you are, but most of these low price
ones are tiringly heavy to use for chasing walls, etc. To me, that makes a
higher priced lighter one worth every penny.
I was in my local Screwfix branch a couple of days ago (Kings Lynn),
and they had a well-priced special offer on a pro Bosch model - I
think it was the DFR2-18.
SDS drills are really the workhorses of the diy (and professionals)
power-tool toolkit - the one's regularly pushed hard on all sorts of
jobs (and you will think up new ways of using it to do the muscle
work) - so worth finding the few extra quid for a good one.
And me; My cheapy lasted several years, including ripping up a thick
concrete floor but when it eventually died - by now I was fully
converted to the joys of SDS - I decided to treat myself to a rather
more upmarket machine and now possess a DeWalt.
So from my experience, the big difference is in the weight: all the
cheapies are substantially heavier so much less comfortable to work
with. Also, as is so usually the case, they are just less pleasant and
easy to use: fine control isn't so good for example.
So you pays your money and you takes your choice: essentially they'll do
the same job but depends how flush are you feeling and how much use the
tool will get.
I was also going to vote for a 5 kg cheapie. Not tried to use mine for
chasing but I would be inclined to go for a double disk cutter (and a very
good vacuum cleaner) if I had much chasing to do.
The 5 kg is OK for drilling horizontal holes and of course the weight all
helps if you need to break concrete hard standing etc.
I bought a Kress (Wickes) and a cheap SDS drill at about the same time a
few years ago. The cheap drill failed on the first day. I exchanged it
four times before demanding my money back. The Kress just worked as it
should, and has done on three building projects on after another.
Despite being the lighter SDS drill of the two, it was more effective in
use and easier to get close into the angle of two walls.
The cheap Chinese versions are IMO useless unless one is doing a
lightweight job that a normal hammer drill could do.
In article , %steve%
My cheapy makes holes in concrete that no normal hammer drill would
touch. I don't find the weight a problem - I wouldn't have bought such a
heavy one if it was.
For the few times a year I use it, it's never failed to make exactly the
hole I want; spending more on a fancier tool would have been a waste of
Another vote for DeWalt. I've been very happy with mine since I got it
5 or 6 years ago. I treat it dreadfully, but it always does the job
and is comfortable to use. I only recently discovered that it did have
a clutch - another plus - given I was core drilling through 2 foot of
stone this was a must!
In article ,
As I said it's things like chasing into walls - ie prolonged use where
you're holding up the thing - that cause problems to me with the heavy
ones. Not the occasional drilling of holes. So for many a cheapie may well
From reading this thread one thing is clear - the whole concept of SDS
is clearly a winner here given the unanimous praise for it; seemingly
regardless of how expensive the tool is. It seems to me like one of
the industry's best kept secrets - I know many a capable DIYer who
have never actually used one and I can't help but feel they're really
Are there (m)any other tools out there that could claim similar? I'd
have to rule out angle grinders for a start I'm afraid - I can't stand
them for indoor use given the dust explosion...