Safety camera partnership

Is it this mob

Yes, thanks. I just need to know now how they are are funded and is it essentially a self funding operation. The site doesn't give much away.

But you can ask them, and they should respond

West Yorkshire Police manage FOI responses for the Camera Partnership

Owain

Thanks, I have emailed them to ask them - lets see what they have to say..

In Surrey the "partneship" is between the police & County Highways department. Their vehicles are usually spotted on a decent bit of dual carriageway which, for some unaccountable reason has had the speed limit reduced to 50mph.

They can't be funded from the fines - the government quite rightly killed that by taking the fines itself, because it was turning into a revenue generation operation.

They can derive revenue from the retraining courses if drivers choose to take them instead of points and fine.

They can be funded by the council. Although the government withdrew the specific funding for speed cameras, councils can still fund them themselves if they can find the resources and think they are a good use of funds.

I went of one of those last year. 23 people @ £85 each. £1955 in takings.

Wages for 2 'trainers' for half a day, rent of rugby club bar, total cost no more than £500.

Nice little earner.

I don't know what outfit they are, but you need to move out of Bradford for a start, then you won't see them, lol

I don't actually live in Bradford, or near Bradford. I had a regular visit there to a custmer - as I explained in my second para.

...was my cynical view, having been offered the choice to go on one, or take 3 points for 40 in a 30[1]

However, it wasn't a waste of time - I felt I learned a few bits and pieces ... I would certainly be amenable to the suggestion that perhaps all drivers should take one every 10 years.

It already exists.

Stick the speed camera database from

A slight issue: the very latest TomToms don't, yet, have the facility for uploading the database, but my Go 930 does. TomTom imagine their decision to not incorporate the facility is an improvement but feedback seems to be persuading them of the error of their ways.

You will. They are 'responsible' for cameras in Leeds too.

Ever since they had to pay me 'compensation' after they failed to respond correctly (they were downright deliberately evasive) to my FoI enquiry and my complaint to the Information Commissioner was upheld.

We have 11 cameras in less than a 6 mile stretch and none of them meet the criteria for installation.

If they are run by the police the requirements are different and they can be totally invisible if they want.

When they were installed by the '*speed*camerapartnership', none of them met the criteria.

Fixed cameras on poles, but I have never seen one of their mobiles vans, ever in Leeds.

Ah! I took the reference to be all of the speed cameras they use so, no, I've not seen any of the vans in Leeds.

Oh, do you mean you can't check the URL? other people find it possible!

On the point of mobile cameras, databases are available and sat navs will warn of the mobile site - it doesn't mean there will be a camera there.

The sat nav warns of variable speed camera sites even when the national limit applies.

Newspapers regularly publish the locations of speed checking areas for the coming month or so. It is in everyone's interest to reduce the number of serious and fatal traffic accidents

John

Strangely one of these posters in in my killfile ;)

I'm less worried about speed camera locations, since I don't intend speeding. However I am concerned that where there are (increasingly) these 40/30/40 stretches, it's easy to miss the changeover signs.

TBH, it's hard not to get the impression that these 40/30/40 roads are designed to rack up fines, since, with any more than a lone car, you eventually wind up with the entire stretch going at 30 anyway. So you may as well have had the whole road set to 30. Save metal and CO2 emissions. If that mattered.