Safety camera partnership

[johnjessop46]

Definitely worth recalling the famous statement "there are lies, there are damned lies and then there are statistics"

[tony sayer]

In such an instance how do thy know it was your can that was being read as it were, not another car nearby going the other direction etc upsetting the reading?.

FWIW theres one of they near Gt Abingdon on the road from Cambs to Haverhill thats doing that now, seems the speedo over reads by some 5 mph

[CB]

The thing that's missing from that last line is "within x km of the camera location" ( I cant remember what x is)

A couple of years ago we had a brand new junction onto the A303. It came from Day 1 with a speed camera at the point the new junction joined the dual carriageway. There was no history of accidents at this particular location but a roundabout approximately 1.5 mile away was a bit of a black spot.

[Tim Streater]

Very dodgy road that as I recall.

[Uncle Peter]

Then that is a very stupid end to the rule. How can the speed at that point affect the number of accidents 1.5 miles away?

I've never actually seen a speed camera on a newly built road until it's been there 4 or 5 years, which would back up the original rule without your bit on the end.

[Vir Campestris]

There are a number of shrines along it, presumably to people who have died. So they reduced the speed limit to 50 in spots.

In most of which I can't imagine how you could have come off the road at

100, never mind 50.

I know another place where they put a camera half-way between two junctions on an urban dual carriageway. There had been a number of incidents at each junction, and they were of course all with half a mile of the camera. And none within 3/8ths.

And another where several yobbos in stolen cars killed themselves - one into a kids playground at about 2am. Must protect the kids, so they put up a camera. That'll help a lot, won't it.

Andy

[alan_m]

Accidents or deaths? One accident can result in more than one death.

Close to where I live, a decade or so there were a few deaths from cars crossing a central reservation on very slight bend in the road. As a result they put up a couple of safety cameras but it didn't stop the accidents. What did stop the accidents was installing a central crash barrier.

[Uncle Peter]

I think it means at least one person required medical attention.

They don't always think before they install things. I often come across things like keep left signs on pedestrian islands that block the driver's vision of oncoming traffic on the main road.

[bert]

Rule or guideline?

[Tim Streater]

Yes, there were a number of accidents there. A couple of girls got off a bus, and were mown down as they crossed the road. I never had much trouble with that road, but was occasionally overtaken by twerps doing a very high speed indeed.

[Uncle Peter]

AFAIK it's a rule, you can contest a camera shouldn't have been there if there's never been accidents nearby.

[ARW]

Sounds about right considering that the people instaling them could not give a f*ck about road safety.

Just like the A61 between Wakefield and Barnsley. And drivers of stolen cars ALWAYS slow down for speed cameras:-)

[Huge]

I have, so you're wrong again. As usual.

[Uncle Peter]

Then you should complain.

[tony sayer]

In article , Tim Streater scribeth thus

Seem to remember it was one girl getting off the bus somewhile ago, never know there were Two at that spot.

It is a dangerous road too small for purposes now, many large lorries and other slow vehicles tension builds and then comes a bit of less then just so overtaking .. Next stop the undertakers;(...

And that bloody dean road cross-roads, not a very well thought out bit of construction...

[Tim Streater]

May have been one, it was some years ago. But there have been a number of accidents.

Not sure where that is.

[Nightjar]

I've long known that, but rarely ever park anywhere that would require the use of lights.

[Bob Eager]