Saab (OT)

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

certainly was at 17 most kids do.....learnt my lesson....only wummin have ran into me since then ........

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

Unlike you am happy to share my good and bad experiences ......

[Brian Reay]

Our car its removable in neutral or reverse. Far more secure than a steering lock.

Whoever mentioned aircraft, certainly light aircraft like the DR400 have the key on the 'dash', it selects the magnetos. (You use it in part of the preflight checks to check they both work. ) Fighters etc don't have gear sticks so suggesting there is any link is nonsense. The side joystick is much later that the Saab key position.

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

that's it ? .....a gear lock...makes sense I suppose...thanks...that would have stopped me being towed off the m8 without the key in the ignition a few years ago in a 405...thank god the horn worked...tee hee

[Bill Wright]

Twenty something years ago we went to a Volvo dealer intending to buy. It was during my working day and I looked like, well, a worker. The salesman assumed we were time wasters and virtually said as much. We bought from another dealer.

I was once refused entrance to a pub called The Bricklayers' Arms (in London) because I was wearing jeans and a tee shirt (like bricklayers do.)

Bill

[Fredxx]

Don't you know either?

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

nice one...tee hee

[tabbypurr]

Strange how car dealers work. When I got my first car I turned up and was just given the keys, didn't even bother to ask who I was, nothing. Hadn't paid for it yet either! Did buy it.

NT

[Steve Walker]

I often went out with friends in Manchester. One night (I can't remember whether it was at the Banshee or Jilly's Rockworld), when the brother of one girl was visiting, we had to talk the bouncers into letting him in, as they didn't normally allow people in UNLESS they were wearing jeans!

SteveW

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Thus spake one incapable of doing simple sums.

Provided you don't mind being conned on the ex hire car, yes.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Couldn't you find a Lada?

[tabbypurr]

They're expensive now, and hard to find.

NT

[gopalansampath]

There is a story behind the shape of Saab, the extended long front and a almost 45 deg slope of the windscreen. It is believed the Swedish elk has a massive bulk and when it hits the car the result is a total mess both for occupants and the car body. The exclusive shape is believed to scoop up the animalfrom under the belly and sweep it over its roof which is of strong design. (generally Swedish cars are strong in build- Volvo had the reputed title of a "tank").

[dennis]

Which as crash tests have shown is not what you want from a car.

I remember the TV add where it came from a building and nose dived into the ground.. they didn't tell you that you had a better chance of surviving in other cheaper cars that would have been write offs.

[tabbypurr]

In those pre-crumple-zone days, strength really was what you wanted for survival. What killed so many then was when cars crumpled. Crumple zones reduce peak forces on the parts you really don't want to crumple.

NT

[dennis]

Yes, and other cars around then did have crumple zones but Volvo sold theirs on the basis of damage to the car and not to the occupants.

The public fell for it too.

[tabbypurr]

Deliberate crumple zones didn't enter production until '59, and it took many years for them to become commonplace. Wikipedia explains it all reasonably well

NT

[mm0fmf]

Carwow have some fun car test videos on Youtube too.

[Spike]

There are differences in the engine-braking performance of various types of auto gearbox, and in certain circumstances the vehicle doesn't slow - or slow enough - no matter how much anticipating the driver does. Perhaps you aren't used to quality autos?