Replace front tyres in pairs?

[Jethro_uk]

Not sure who'd buy them.

I wouldn't

[The Natural Philosopher]

people on benefits with untaxed uninsured cars with no MOT

[Jethro_uk]

You'd have thought the self selection of buying dodgy tyres would lead to a bit of a cull.

Although they're probably all out buying ambulances now.

[T i m]

Quite, and the term 'dumped' wasn't literal (although I expected the left brainer troll / stalker to try to take it so) as I'm aware that tyres can be recycled into all sorts of other stuff (like play area surfaces) but I was describing the action *we* do when we no longer use what is essentially a perfectly good tyre ... if only people understood what the options were for a perfectly functional repair, saving a useable tyre from having to be converted into rubber and steel / nylon fragments (<for the left brainer stalker / troll). ;-(

One of the first post puncture instances I used Puntureseal for was the Sierra estate. Mrs came to pick me up from the station, the kid was in the front so I jumped in the back and quickly noticed the sound of the antistatic strap rubbing on the road all the time, not just as you stopped. I got the Mrs to pull over and noticed a rear tyre partly deflated. I pumped it up, we were able to drive home on it (only local) and I jacked it up, removed the valve core, applied the right quantity of Puncturseal, span the tyre round a few times, cleaned the valve out, replaced the core then pumped it up again. I took it for a run around the block and that tyre was still on there and still holding air, many years later when I finally scrapped the car. It's been the same for many people and many tyres so far, inc on motorbikes.

And nor would I, other than when they have been bought new by us and come off our own cars. ;-)

(When the Astra was written off by an artic when it was parked overnight (outside the house, driver drove off ...), I spoke to the disposal people who were going to collect it re the new battery and new front tyres I'd just fitted. They said as long as their man could start it and drive it on his transporter, he didn't care what was on there. So I swapped stuff about and later daughter was able to use them on her Corsa as they were the exact same size, make and model). ;-)

I guess if you don't understand how something works you can be suckered into getting something that never will (snake oil) or be inclined to ignore something as being 'too good to be true' when it actually isn't.

I have way too many personal stories of where Puntureseal has done

*exactly* what I (and others) have hoped of / for it and more to realise it's 'a good thing'.

I gave a mate half a bottle to do one of his bike tyres and it worked, so he bought some more for himself and replaced mine with a new full bottle. Except it wasn't the same stuff, it was made to look the same but wasn't the same. I didn't realise that at the time.

Daughters b/f got a puncture in his rear motorcycle tyre and I used this 'other' stuff to fix it for him. He wouldn't have been able to ride it to a bike shop, the bike didn't have a main stand so he couldn't take the wheel off and in himself and hence the 'treatment'. Except it simply didn't work (fully), even after I had used more than recommended. It worked just about well enough for him to ride it to the bike shop and get a new tyre fitted (the old one was pretty low anyway).

Cheers, T i m

p.s. I had a bit of a run in with a mate recently, mostly down to his (false / unreasonable?) expectations.

He had a puncture in the spare tyre of his wife's car so I offered to treat it with Punctureseal for him, as a favour and as a demonstration to him how good the stuff was. Expensive and quite new (premium) tyre, small nail hole (nail still in it) but too near the edge of the tread for a 'conventional' repair. He brought the car round, we applied the Punctureseal to the spare and I suggested he actually fit the spare and give it a run round, 1) to get it to fully disperse around the inside of the tyre and 2) to better fix the leak and cure properly. He did and then drove the 20 miles home and after a few weeks of checking, hadn't lost a single PSI of pressure.

Now the stuff isn't 'cheap' but I gave it to him for the reasons above. Then he gets a puncture in one of his own car tyres and asks when he can come down for me to treat that 'one'?

I asked, 'given you saw how well it worked and one new tyre would be more than the cost to treat all 4 with Punctureseal, why hadn't he already done so' (and no, I need what I have left for us). ;-(

I guess you just can't help some people ... ;-(

[Jimmy Stewart ...]

I bought a nice Pirelli P-Zero from Italy to match what was on the Mustang had about 5mm left

[T i m]

And with an irreparable puncture?

Cheers, T i m

[bert]

Different angled wheel nuts between steel and alloy on Defenders.

[Jethro_uk]

Kenyans made "Thousand milers" out of old tyres. Pretty nifty hardwaring sandals. Far too good quality for the UK market, of course.

[Fredxx]

The only troll here is the one with half a brain who steers many posts to fanatical veganism.

[T i m]

Yeah, I've seen those and you are right, they are. ;-)

I love watching the Youtube videos to see the approach of some of these resourceful people, making something very functional out of what most would consider just waste.

Reduce, Repair / Reuse, Recycle.

This is why I think it's a terrible (and often costly) shame that so many perfectly good tyres are considered irreparable when more often or not they are (and easily). ;-(

The problem with 'good' sealant is that's it's like those electronic elephant deterrents ... [1]

Cheers, T i m

[1] I tracked / logged on the web ... a lady as she rode her motorbike (solo) round the world. She used Punctureseal in all the new tyres she fitted along the way and when she got back the rear was particularly 'bald' and showing the telltale marks of several punctures (little coloured dots in the rubber where the sealant had come though as it did it's job), punctures she got but never suffered from.

If an inner tube can 'repair' a punctured tyre (where suitable) ...

[T i m]

Yup. Understeer is more controllable for most than oversteer.

Mine wasn't (but then it was a long time ago). ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[nightjar]

Tyres with a V speed rating usually come in two price ranges - expensive and even more expensive.

[Jimmy Stewart ...]

no

[T i m]

Well if you are considering doing that, what about chucking something more likely to make a permanent repair in? ;-)

I think it's those 'get you home' pressurised cans that the tyre fitters don't like as I'm not sure how easy it is to clean out, if the tyre could be repaired conventionally.

If you actually wanted / needed to make a 'traditional' (and we know how out-of-touch / date' some traditions are) repair, then Punctureseal is water soluble (and non toxic) and so can simply be washed out with a hose. [1]

connection etc, just a long term user)

Cheers, T i m

[1] I took the rear tyre off the Mrs's XV750 that I had treated with Punctureseal a good 15 years earlier and laid up for some time. Much to my surprise the sealant was still stuck around the inside of the tyre (tread area) and was still mobile (you could scrape it out with your finger). Because I wasn't going to re-fit the tyre (too old) I just washed the sealant out with a hose.

[mm0fmf]

Wait till you have to buy Y rated tyres.

[Steve Walker]

From what I've hears, nearly all are water based and can simply be washed out, but fitters tend to use it as an excuse to sell a new tyre.

[ARW]

I get more punctures than average. I suppose it goes with working on building sites.

How do screws always know how to go for the newest tyres?

[T i m]

<snip>

I'm sure that's part of it as well and maybe more of the modern get_you_home solutions are *now* water soluble etc? I know many used latex and I understand that's not 'environmentally friendly' or water soluble?

The thing I find strange is why people would even be in the position to have to use one of the get_you_home cans when there is already something that would deal with such things without all the fuss (and have other benefits like sealing any porosity and possibly helping with maintaining the flexibility of the rubber in the tyre).

This is especially so for people who need their vehicles to earn a living, those with mobility issues or not in a position to change a wheel themselves (or try to do so on the side of a busy road).

As mentioned, such solutions are sometimes offered to those often least able to support themselves but I wonder how hard (given your point above re them earning more money from attending a breakdown and fitting a new tyre etc).

They even have a clever system for injecting the Punctureseal into the tyre whilst it's fitted to the vehicle and fully inflated. ;-)

Because the solution is quite thick and contains 'matter' that would potentially block the valve if you tried to push it though it, you attach the nozzle to the valve, unscrew the valve and withdraw it from the stem, out of the way and into the 'head' of the filling tool, apply the suitable dose of sealant and then re fit the valve. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[R D S]

And both front today!

[newshound]

They are sniffing out the mould release agent.