Removing chimney breast...

"Matthew Durkin" wrote | I'm willing to accept that my DIY skills are not up to removing a | chimney breast - however I would like ot have one removed. | The chimney has already been removed from downstairs, and I'd now | like the bit upstairs removing also (small room, will make big | space difference). | It's about a foot deep and perhaps 3 feet wide. We live in a red | brick terrace and this is on a wall adjoining the neighbours. | Could someone let me know what will be involved and how big a job | it is? How much would I expect to pay for the chimney to be | removed? Are there any complications - i.e.could it be connected | to next door in any way?

The chimney structure has to be properly supported in the roof space, whether or not this was done when the ground floor chimney was taken out, using beams or gallows brackets in the attic. The structural steelwork etc required for this should be designed by a structural engineer who has professional indemnity insurance and can sign off the calculations to the satisfaction of Building Control. As the breast is in a party wall then Party Wall Act provisions will apply.

When you appoint a builder you should make it a condition of the contract that the work is carried out to the satisfaction of your StructE and have the StructE inspect the work before paying the builder. You really need the StructE before the builder, because the StructE can prepare working dwgs and specs against which you can invite builders to quote.

If it's a front-facing room you might want to arrange all access to the works to be via the room window and an access tower, and access to the attic through the ceiling of this room (you will probably need a new ceiling anyway) rather than having builders traipsing through the rest of the house.

Removing the chimney breast without supporting the stack above is probably the most common cause of "I did some DIY and the house fell down" stories, and builders cannot be relied upon to do the job properly on their own initiative.

Owain

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Owain
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Hi All, I'm willing to accept that my DIY skills are not up to removing a chimney breast - however I would like ot have one removed. The chimney has already been removed from downstairs, and I'd now like the bit upstairs removing also (small room, will make big space difference). It's about a foot deep and perhaps 3 feet wide. We live in a red brick terrace and this is on a wall adjoining the neighbours. Could someone let me know what will be involved and how big a job it is? How much would I expect to pay for the chimney to be removed? Are there any complications - i.e.could it be connected to next door in any way?

Thanks, Matthew

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Matthew Durkin

You will need to serve a notice under the Party Wall Act, and will need buildings regs approval. Things you need to consider are the (potentially) unbalanced weight of next door's chimney, and if you floor joists are supported by the breast at all.

You're looking at probably at least a day's work taking it out, another making good, and of course disposal of a lot of waste. Best give a few local builders a call, as the charge will vary depending on what is actually there - does the stack still continue above the roof line?

Also, as your stack has already been removed downstairs, I would imagine this will require some extra support during removal 'just in-case', although I'm not sure.

HTH

Alex

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Alex

Sorry, completely forgot to mention the most important bit (too late in the day I think) regarding support of the remaing stack in the attic space & above the roof line.

Owain said it all in his post.

Alex

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Alex

We've just been quoted £894 + VAT for the removal of a chimney. It's entirely on our roof (not shared in any way with neighbours). That includes removal of all rubbish and making good of our slate roof. We're going to be removing the chimney breast (from the attic down) ourselves.

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Julie

oh dear. That bad :O( And I'd then need to replaster the ceiling and wall. Hmm. Maybe I'll leave it where it is. We're only planning to be in this house another 5 years tops and I don't think £1K to remove the chimney will add that to the house value. Maybe I'll ring round and get some local quotes. There's no way I'd tackle a chimney!

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Matthew Durkin

You imply that you have removed brickwork from downstairs. So what is supporting the brick work at first floor and attic levels? You also say you may move in a few years. What will a purchaser's surveyor make of the structural integrity of the remaining chimney and its effect on the party (?) wall?

There are ways of dealing with the problem - a qualified advisor can assist.

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David H-S

The downstairs chimney was removed before we moved in and the survey didn't show anything of any concern up. I'm assuming it's been done properly! We're just thinking about removing the rest!

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Matthew Durkin

it will cost you far more than that, since struc eng and party wall legalities are involved. And if youre unlucky it may turn out to not be doable, ie if the load is a balanced one.

NT

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N. Thornton

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