Re: OT: Climate Change Bullshit

Dec 02, 2018 Last reply: 7 years ago 2 Replies
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> >>>> >>>>>> We will be out of Euratom, by design, and that has a knock-on


>>>>>> effect for nuke electricity generation and medical
>>>>>> radioisotopes.
>>>>>
>>>>> however the british authority has already prepared a complete replacement
>>>>> strategy if a 'no deal' occurs.
>>>>
>>>> No, it hasn't. I hope neither you nor anybody near to
>>>> you needs radiotherapy for a cancer.
>>>>
>>>> Start with
>>>>
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>>>
>>> Ah. Project fear again.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Realise the radioisotopes can never be stockpiled delays
>>>> in transport (doh!). Pay particular attention to
>>>> Technectium-99m, Iodine-131 and "Xofigo".
>>>>
>>>
>>> Grandmother, eggs, suck
>>>
>>>
>>>> All are imported, and the cancer patients are completely
>>>> dependent on those imports.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed.
>>>
>>>> Or perhaps you have evidence (not a pious assertion)
>>>> to support your claim?
>>>>
>>>
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>>> "Most medical radioisotopes made in nuclear reactors are sourced from
>>> relatively few research reactors, including:
>>>
>>>      HFR at Petten in Netherlands (supplied via IRE and Curium).
>>>      BR-2 at Mol in Belgium (supplied via IRE and Curium).
>>>      Maria in Poland (supplied via Curium).
>>>      Orphee at Saclay in France (supplied via IRE).
>>>      FRJ-2/FRM-2 at Jülich in Germany (supplied via IRE).
>>>      LVR-15 at Rez in Czech Republic (supplied via IRE).
>>>      HFETR at Chengdu in China.
>>>      Safari in South Africa (supplied from NTP).
>>>      OPAL in Australia (supplied from ANM).
>>>      ETRR-2 in Egypt (forthcoming: supplied to domestic market).
>>>      Dimitrovgrad in Russia (Isotop-NIIAR).
>>>      NRU at Chalk River in Canada (supplied via MDS Nordion) ceased
>>> production in October 2016, and the reactor closed down in March 2018." >>>
>>> So yes, I have evidence that if the European Union as an act of war decides
>>> to PREVENT exports of these  items to a nation that is in WTO rules, same as
>>> any other nation like - say - Equador - this making itself an international
>>> pariah state, it would not be impossible to source them from other nations. >>
>> Remarkably, if unsurprisingly, you contradict yourself in
>> your own post...
>>
>> That's exactly the point the "project fear" document makes.
>>
>> Are you really expecting countries to perform illegal
>> actions exporting nuclear materials to other countries
>> that aren't part of a common regulatory framework.
> The  regulartorty framework is *already* in place for a post brexit situation

You don't understand.


Even if the two regulatory frameworks contain exactly the same words, they will still be *legally* different frameworks. Until the two are declared to be legally equivalent and acceptable, it will be illegal to export nuclear materials.


Now, how long do you think it will take the lawyers and bureaucrats to declare equivalence?


> By Brexiteers *intent*, once we are out of Euratom we will
>> be in the same position as N. Korea.
>>
>>
>
> No, we will not. This has all beenm dealt with by te UKs regulatory nuclear
> authoirity
>
> YOU read the headlines in te scaremonger press. *I* read the small colunmns in
> the nuclear industru press.
>
>>
>>>> Don't start quoting those that have a track record of
>>>> claiming it will be trivially easy to negotiate new
>>>> treaties and countries will be queuing up to do deals
>>>> with us. Even the fragrant Liam Fox MP has abandoned
>>>> his claims in the face of evidence!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oh dear. Kool aid now drunk I see.
>>
>> The kool aid is believing it will be easy.
>>
>
> It is trivially easy if yoiu e.g. give way to every demanmd like May has done >
> Agreed gettinmg a FAIR deal takes te sort of work she is not capable of.

I agree she cannot get a good fair deal. Neither could anybody else.


The crap deal is as good as anybody could have achieved in the circumstances.


> Look at how Wallonia (half of Belgium) held up the
>> trade treaty with Canada. Spain is going to have real
>> fun doing that with us over Gibraltar :(
>>
>
> Thats whey we need to simply leave with no deal
> Then they can f*ck right off.

Actually we are f****ng off, and will be f***ed by it,


> As a eurocrat put it, member states can and will
>> regard future treaty negotiations as a christmas
>> tree: *each* will hang their own bauble on it. And
>> we will be out in the cold until *all* baubles have
>> been agreed. That's at least 27 baubles :(
>
> That why we have to leave the EU

If we weren't leaving it wouldn't even be an issue.

We'll see...

They will do that instantly when they are identical.

This is just more Project Fear lies.

So it only makes sense to do a no deal brexit.

Yep.

Nope, the UK will do fine, just like all the other first world countrys outside the EU already do.

Barclays has already moved £200bn of trading to Ireland.

We're excluded from Galileo, a problem for our military.

Jacob Rees-Mogg's company has moved to Ireland.

Is Jacob Rees-Mogg part of Project Fear, or does he know something you don't?

Nope, it only makes sense to stay in.

You will be more than a little "disappointed".

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